My top 20 allrounders of all-time

[Days of Grace]

Sink your teeth into this then lads... My top 20 TEST allrounders of all time.

I suspect that Kallis may lose rating points as time goes on because I expect him not to bowl as much and I also don't expect him to maintain his batting average of 55+


1 G.S. Sobers (WI) 975
2 Imran Khan (P) 878
3 I.T. Botham (E) 867
4 J.H. Kallis (SA) 866
5 K.R. Miller (A) 828
6 G.A. Faulkner (SA) 810
7 R.J. Hadlee (NZ) 706
8 S.M. Pollock (SA) 679
9 N. Kapil Dev (I) 675
10 A.W. Greig (E) 672
11 C.L. Cairns (NZ) 657
12 T.L. Goddard (SA) 648
13 W. Rhodes (E) 572
14 M.A. Noble (A) 561
15 A. Flintoff (E) 541
16 A.K. Davidson (A) 534
17 J.M. Gregory (A) 531
18 C. Kelleway (A) 524
19 Wasim Akram (P) 521
20 M.H. Mankad (I) 520

 

[The Sean]

Sink your teeth into this then lads... My top 20 TEST allrounders of all time.

I suspect that Kallis may lose rating points as time goes on because I expect him not to bowl as much and I also don't expect him to maintain his batting average of 55+


1 G.S. Sobers (WI) 975
2 Imran Khan (P) 878
3 I.T. Botham (E) 867
4 J.H. Kallis (SA) 866
5 K.R. Miller (A) 828
6 G.A. Faulkner (SA) 810
7 R.J. Hadlee (NZ) 706
8 S.M. Pollock (SA) 679
9 N. Kapil Dev (I) 675
10 A.W. Greig (E) 672
11 C.L. Cairns (NZ) 657
12 T.L. Goddard (SA) 648
13 W. Rhodes (E) 572
14 M.A. Noble (A) 561
15 A. Flintoff (E) 541
16 A.K. Davidson (A) 534
17 J.M. Gregory (A) 531
18 C. Kelleway (A) 524
19 Wasim Akram (P) 521
20 M.H. Mankad (I) 520

Interesting list mate - contains most all of the blokes I'd pick, though not necessarily in the same order of course...

Could you tell us the criteria you used?

 

[Xuhaib]

Sink your teeth into this then lads... My top 20 TEST allrounders of all time.

I suspect that Kallis may lose rating points as time goes on because I expect him not to bowl as much and I also don't expect him to maintain his batting average of 55+


1 G.S. Sobers (WI) 975
2 Imran Khan (P) 878
3 I.T. Botham (E) 867
4 J.H. Kallis (SA) 866
5 K.R. Miller (A) 828
6 G.A. Faulkner (SA) 810
7 R.J. Hadlee (NZ) 706
8 S.M. Pollock (SA) 679
9 N. Kapil Dev (I) 675
10 A.W. Greig (E) 672
11 C.L. Cairns (NZ) 657
12 T.L. Goddard (SA) 648
13 W. Rhodes (E) 572
14 M.A. Noble (A) 561
15 A. Flintoff (E) 541
16 A.K. Davidson (A) 534
17 J.M. Gregory (A) 531
18 C. Kelleway (A) 524
19 Wasim Akram (P) 521
20 M.H. Mankad (I) 520

Davidson too low for me.

 

[BhupinderSingh]

Sink your teeth into this then lads... My top 20 TEST allrounders of all time.

I suspect that Kallis may lose rating points as time goes on because I expect him not to bowl as much and I also don't expect him to maintain his batting average of 55+


1 G.S. Sobers (WI) 975
2 Imran Khan (P) 878
3 I.T. Botham (E) 867
4 J.H. Kallis (SA) 866
5 K.R. Miller (A) 828
6 G.A. Faulkner (SA) 810
7 R.J. Hadlee (NZ) 706
8 S.M. Pollock (SA) 679
9 N. Kapil Dev (I) 675
10 A.W. Greig (E) 672
11 C.L. Cairns (NZ) 657
12 T.L. Goddard (SA) 648
13 W. Rhodes (E) 572
14 M.A. Noble (A) 561
15 A. Flintoff (E) 541
16 A.K. Davidson (A) 534
17 J.M. Gregory (A) 531
18 C. Kelleway (A) 524
19 Wasim Akram (P) 521
20 M.H. Mankad (I) 520

Gary"One of the most rubbish bowlers ever"Sobers was not an allrounder at all & yet he is at the top? I think its better to have Bradman there if we have to include people who were hardly allrounders.

 

[Perm]

Gary"One of the most rubbish bowlers ever"Sobers was not an allrounder at all & yet he is at the top? I think its better to have Bradman there if we have to include people who were hardly allrounders.

 

[BhupinderSingh]

Also,Jacques Kallis is not an allrounder?

 

[NUFAN]

Life must be good on Jupiter BhupinderSingh

 

[BhupinderSingh]

Gary Sobers is truly a A Master of Black Magic

 

[Perm]

Gary Sobers is truly a A Master of Black Magic

That thread is one of the worst CW has ever seen.

 

[BhupinderSingh]

If great batting but three types of rubbish bowling makes u a "best allrounder ever" then what can one say?...............

 

[BhupinderSingh]

That thread is one of the worst CW has ever seen.

Thats the opinion of a typical diehard Gary Sobers fan because many people have said before that "Black Magic thread" was a source of some good debate over Sobers bowling & his comparison as an allrounder to Imran,Botham & others.

 

[Days of Grace]

Sobers did the feat of 100 runs/5 wickets in a match a total of 7 times. Only Botham has matched this. The next best is Greig (4), then a range of players on 2. That's how great an allrounder Sobers was.

 

[Perm]

Thats the opinion of a typical diehard Gary Sobers fan because many people have said that Black Magic thread was a source of some good debate over Sobers bowling & his comparison as an allrounder to Imran,Botham & others.

Was mainly referring to the first part of it, mainly you're suggestion that Sobers was a master of black magic.

 

[BhupinderSingh]

Sobers did the feat of 100 runs/5 wickets in a match a total of 7 times. Only Botham has matched this. The next best is Greig (4), then a range of players on 2. That's how great an allrounder Sobers was.

Ok thats jsut 7 performances but how good & consistent was he as a bowler? He could bowl three styles rubbishly which means he was a combination of three(thats what people give him credit for) rubbish styles & hence IMO one of the most worst bowlers ever & hence not an allrounder at all.His wkts/match ratio of 2.52 puts him in the bunch Mohammad Sami,Ajit Agarkar type of bowlers who are known as rubbsih.So,Sobers was also a rubbish bowler.

 

[Engle]

In a competitive star-studded 5-match series between England and ROW XI (early 70's), Sobers led the batting AND bowling aggregates for BOTH teams.

Some honorable mentions, IMO, s/b made for certain players:
WG Grace, M.Procter, C.Rice (am sure they wud've done well in better circumstances)
R.Benaud (if captaincy were to be considered)

 

[Fiery]

Gary"One of the most rubbish bowlers ever"Sobers was not an allrounder at all & yet he is at the top? I think its better to have Bradman there if we have to include people who were hardly allrounders.

Also,Jacques Kallis is not an allrounder?

Gary Sobers is truly a A Master of Black Magic

If great batting but three types of rubbish bowling makes u a "best allrounder ever" then what can one say?...............

Thats the opinion of a typical diehard Gary Sobers fan because many people have said before that "Black Magic thread" was a source of some good debate over Sobers bowling & his comparison as an allrounder to Imran,Botham & others.

Ok thats jsut 7 performances but how good & consistent was he as a bowler? He could bowl three styles rubbishly which means he was a combination of three(thats what people give him credit for) rubbish styles & hence IMO one of the most worst bowlers ever & hence not an allrounder at all.His wkts/match ratio of 2.52 puts him in the bunch Mohammad Sami,Ajit Agarkar type of bowlers who are known as rubbsih.So,Sobers was also a rubbish bowler.

 

[Shaggy Alfresco]

Sobers is probably the purest (and greatest) all rounder in history. If you can bat, bowl pace, bowl spin and field excellently, how can you not be classed as one?

 

[Engle]

Cricinfo listed Sobers as the greatest all-rounder ever in a series on AR.
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/westindies/content/story/292544.html

His Player Profile says :

Also known as Garry Sobers
Playing role All-rounder
Batting style Left-hand bat
Bowling style Left-arm fast-medium, Slow left-arm orthodox, Slow left-arm chinaman

 

[PhoenixFire]

I rate Miller as the best ever, but that's just personal preference.

 

[Engle]

If captaincy were to be considered seeing that all skills s/b accounted for, wud that make Imran the greatest AR (over Sobers, others) ?