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Kallis vs. Botham as an allrounder

Botham vs. Kallis: allrounder in tests

  • Ian Botham

    Votes: 26 86.7%
  • Jacques Kallis

    Votes: 4 13.3%

  • Total voters
    30
  • Poll closed .

Days of Grace

International Captain
Faulkner averaged over 40 with the bat and about 26 with the ball. Many cricket historians rave about the lad. Go and read his profile on crockinfo.
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
Always under the shadow of Hanif
Overall was a better cricketer then his brother.Was watching a show where all the 5 Mohhamad brothers were invited and funnily all the brothers were of the oponion that among all the brothers Raees Ahmed was the best cricketer and oddly Raees is the only brother who has not played test cricket, maybe thats one way to make him feel valuable in the family.
 

Fiery

Banned
Overall was a better cricketer then his brother.Was watching a show where all the 5 Mohhamad brothers were invited and funnily all the brothers were of the oponion that among all the brothers Raees Ahmed was the best cricketer and oddly Raees is the only brother who has not played test cricket, maybe thats one way to make him feel valuable in the family.

Very debatable. Not using this as an argument but Hanif bowled right and left-handed in Test cricket btw :blink:
 
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Prince EWS

Global Moderator
A lot of people seem to be forgetting that for some allrounders, like Pollock, it is difficult for them to score centuries when they are batting at no.8.
They're at #8 for a reason though. If they got a string of not outs, they'd be promoted up the order - the fact that they still only average 25 odd is why they stay down there. If you batted Kallis at #8, he'd probably average about 200. :p
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
Very debatable. Not using this as an argument but Hanif bowled right and left-handed in Test cricket btw :blink:
Hanif legacy is based on that mammoth 337 if he had not played that innings then he would be seen just another good batsman rather then the legend he is considered now.
 

Fiery

Banned
They're at #8 for a reason though. If they got a string of not outs, they'd be promoted up the order - the fact that they still only average 25 odd is why they stay down there. If you batted Kallis at #8, he'd probably average about 200. :p
Number 8 in a batting line-up should be kept for the most attacking, not most talented, bowler-who-can-bat/allrounder imo
 

Fiery

Banned
Hanif legacy is based on that mammoth 337 if he had not played that innings then he would be seen just another good batsman rather then the legend he is considered now.
He must have been called the "Little Master" for a reason
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Number 8 in a batting line-up should be kept for the most attacking, not most talented, bowler-who-can-bat/allrounder imo
I disagree. I think it's actually most beneficial if the #8 has a sound technical base and a reliable defence, so he can build a partnership with the last remaining specialist batsman. Having someone come in and make a quick 15 in a partnership of 20 at #8 isn't really ideal, as they leave their more superior partner stranded with #9-11. I'd rather have Jason Gillespie at #8 than Warne, for example.
 

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