***Official** West Indies in England***

[Ash_A55]

Worst logic, dead set.

Of course you can have a dire fifty. You can have a bad anything really, as "dire X" measures the quality of X against other X's. A dire quadruple century would of course still be a very good innings, for example, it'd just be poor in comparison to other quadruple centuries.

Just because he's been dropped and not given out doesn't make it a bad knock, just poor shot selection. The way he has got runs is very deserving.

 

[Ash_A55]

Club cricketers could make you pay if you let them off 3 times.

Certianly, I've seen it done.

 

[Prince EWS]

Just because he's been dropped and not given out doesn't make it a bad knock, just poor shot selection. The way he has got runs is very deserving.

Whether it has been a bad innings or not is irrelevent. Grecian said it was a dire 50 - not a dire innings. If it's only being compared to other 50s - as it was given Grecian's wording - then there's no denying it was dire.

 

[Ash_A55]

Whether it has been a bad innings or not is irrelevent. Grecian said it was a dire 50 - not a dire innings. If it's only being compared to other 50s - as it was given Grecian's wording - then there's no denying it was dire.

I meant innings up to now. Anyway, how on earth can you have a dire 50 then? at the end of the day the scorecard doesn't say dropped X times or nearly out to the bowling of X. Its the runs he gets that matter. In this case a 50.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Rubbish. Bell has never received 3 let-offs in a half-century.

Very dubious, but I can't be arsed checking. His first 50 v Australia was the luckiest innings I've ever seen, dropped at least twice, leading edges, constant play and misses, inside edges. That was worse than Collingwood definitely unless you're stupid enough to reduce an innings to a single statistic that conveniently suits your own argument...

 

[Richard]

I meant innings up to now. Anyway, how on earth can you have a dire 50 then? at the end of the day the scorecard doesn't say dropped X times or nearly out to the bowling of X. Its the runs he gets that matter. In this case a 50.

There's more to cricket than what the scorecard says. Otherwise we'd not be watching - or posting.

 

[Prince EWS]

Anyway, how on earth can you have a dire 50 then?

If you don't know that by now, you clearly have no idea what my point is. You can have a dire 50 if your innings is dire in comparison to other fifties. You can have a dire anything really, as when you said "Dire X", it's only being compared to others of the same.

If you still don't get it, you never will, so I shan't bother any longer.

 

[Richard]

Very dubious, but I can't be arsed checking. His first 50 v Australia was the luckiest innings I've ever seen, dropped at least twice, leading edges, constant play and misses, inside edges. That was worse than Collingwood definitely unless you're stupid enough to reduce an innings to a single statistic that conveniently suits your own argument...

In case you've missed, Collingwood has played and missed plenty here too.

 

[_Ed_]

In case you've missed, Collingwood has played and missed plenty here too.

To be fair he could be forgiven for thinking each one was a replay of an earlier delivery.

 

[Pup Clarke]

In case you've missed, Collingwood has played and missed plenty here too.

That is because Collymore has moved the ball of the seam quite alarmingly..

 

[_Ed_]

I haven't seen as much seam movement as I was expecting today, there's certainly been swing though.

 

[Richard]

That is because Collymore has moved the ball of the seam quite alarmingly..

It's been more swing (and not just Collymore, Powell, Taylor and Bravo have done too) but the same thing was true of the bowlers at Old Trafford in 2005.

 

[_Ed_]

Aleem Dar has a right to feel aggrieved that David Lloyd seemed to just suggest that he and Asad Rauf were umpires of similar ability.

 

[Richard]

TBH, both of them have their ups and downs.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Did anyone come up with a cricketer to name the stating the obvious award after?

 

[Richard]

Mail me at (deleted), sounds an excellent idea if it's workable. I can do a proper job on the first 2 sessions, mail it to you, then you can do a brief intro and third session, and post it.

I doubt I'll get a better offer, TBH. Thanks mate.

Presume you got my email, but will post just in case... Alex is doing the report for today apparently, didn't spot the change.

 

[wpdavid]

Presume you got my email, but will post just in case... Alex is doing the report for today apparently, didn't spot the change.

Yeah, got it thanks.

 

[Gloucefan]

There's more to cricket than what the scorecard says. Otherwise we'd not be watching - or posting.

Well said.

 

[Richard]

Well now... first signs of uneven bounce... and we're not even halfway through day-two.

 

[roseboy64]

After hearing the commentators is it safe to assume the West Indies bowled well but were unlucky?