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Super Eight
- Thread starter James
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probably not! But i guess a win is a win...and they would settle for it!
TT Boy
Hall of Fame Member
Impressed by Ireland once more, they never gave up and played hard intelligent cricket throughout. A few of their bowlers are pretty mediocre but good team ethic and they should be able to give Bangladesh a really good game.
As for South Africa, AB will be kicking himself for his received one good delivery all World Cup and the rest of the time his contrived to get out to absolutely appalling deliveries and more significantly they would have liked to finish the game off earlier. Though, doubtlessly if Smith did not depart the game would have been over with probably ten overs to spare but as they say a win is a win.
As for South Africa, AB will be kicking himself for his received one good delivery all World Cup and the rest of the time his contrived to get out to absolutely appalling deliveries and more significantly they would have liked to finish the game off earlier. Though, doubtlessly if Smith did not depart the game would have been over with probably ten overs to spare but as they say a win is a win.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
He honestly might not make it at full strength. He'd make it now that Watson is out though.
His bowling in one day cricket is decidedly useless and I don't see him getting a place in the top 4 - nor being adaptable enough to bat anywhere else.
He'd obviously be first picked or close to in the test side though.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
I'm a very long way from being a dyed-in-the-wool Kallis fan, but I'd take him ahead of Clarke or Symonds in a flash. Before the WC I'd have said Hayden too.
TT Boy
Hall of Fame Member
Not really. Personally I rate him more than Michael Clarke but considering Australia's top three and the amount of time young Clarke has to play a pressure innings there really isn't much need for Kallis in the Australian ODI set-up. Would have come in handy when Australia were put under the pump in the CB series but as I said considering what they have at the top of the order, such instances are pretty much anomalies.
Clarke is perfect for this Australian side, his not a cricketer who I would want or back to bat me to a victory (against good opposition when the heat is on) but his attractive, does not dick around and his great at rotating the strike in the middle overs.
However, Slater would be erroneous to suggest Kallis would not get into the Aus test team for his head and shoulders a better bowler than Andy Symonds and infinitely a better batsman (same goes for a comparison against Michael Clarke).
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Well, I actually am a pretty big Kallis fan ITBT, but if I had to put my life on the result of a one day match, I wouldn't select him ahead of Clarke or Symonds. There'd be a lot more chance of me selecting him ahead of Hayden, actually, but I don't know how he'd cope opening. Selecting him ahead of Watson would be the obvious thing to do, but I don't know who'd end up batting 7. Ponting-Kallis-Clarke-Symonds-Hussey I guess.
TT Boy
Hall of Fame Member
Yeah, for Kallis batted quicker in the last game against the minnows Sri Lanka, what a ‘dickhead’ Kallis is.trust kallis to score quickly against a minnow..what a dickhead
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Even given that, I thought it was a pretty stupid comment. The minnow countries are naturally going to have worse bowlers which will be easier to score against, and hence your natural strike rate will be higher.Yeah, for Kallis batted quicker in the last game against the minnows Sri Lanka, what a ‘dickhead’ Kallis is.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Mind me asking why? Just don't see it at all. He has a higher average than either (albeit at a lower strike rate) & his bowling is clearly a cut above Symonds's & so far ahead of Clarke's SLA as to be embarrassed by the comparison.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Personally I don't rate Kallis's one day bowling one iota - it can useful in tests as a partnership breaker, but it's about useful in ODIs these days as **** on a bull.
I love watching the guy bat - the purity, the every-ball-on-its-merits-regardless-of-the-situation mindset and the superb technique that goes along with it. However, in the Australian ODI top order, they simply don't need a Kallis. He'd be great in any other side as he stabilises things and can be trusted to get you 50 more times than not - but in the Australian setup, it's not really needed. Clarke has a similar average and a much, much higher strike rate, while Symonds's average is lowered by the fact that he completely rubbish before the 2003 World Cup. Symonds and Clarke can adapt to any situation a lot better than Kallis, and given the pitches, rules and bowling standards currently employed in one day cricket along with the strength of Australia's batting lineup, Clarke and Symonds are much more valuable than Kallis would be.
TT Boy
Hall of Fame Member
Exactly why are you telling me this? For I was taking the piss…
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Yeah I wasn't arguing with you - I was just adding to your post. I meant to quote Swervy's post before but I got sidetracked - you reminded me to comment on it. It was Swervy's comment that I felt was stupid - not yours.
LA ICE-E
State Captain
I think irelands proved enough that they deserve to be in the super 8 right, even if they don't win any, they were still competitive and i think if the keep going like this they'll have test status in about 10 years...may be less but good going! better than bangladesh in '98. so they do have a future unless england keeps stealing its talent...icc needs to something about that
pup11
International Coach
Excited about today's game England v/s Sri Lanka its gonna be a huge game.
Murali v/s KP and Jayasuriya v/s Freddie are the two head-to-head battles i am really excited to watch.
Hope there is no bloody rain in today's game.
Fletcher better play Plunkett in today's game (if England want to win today) rather than Saj Mahmood.
Murali v/s KP and Jayasuriya v/s Freddie are the two head-to-head battles i am really excited to watch.
Hope there is no bloody rain in today's game.
Fletcher better play Plunkett in today's game (if England want to win today) rather than Saj Mahmood.
England do have real match winners in KP, Freddie, Collingwood, Bell and a very good bowling combination in Anderson/Lewis/ Plunkett /Flintoff /Monty +/- Bopara.
This is hardly the bowling attack that SL faced when they won 5-0 .
Over confidance by SL could lead to their downfall.
I would hope they play Atapattu instead of Arnold.
I have changed my mind wrt playing Bandara. SL must play Murali, but hope some of the English Batters don't take to him like Chanderpaul and clobber him for 4-5 sixers as Chanders did the other day...With regard to Dilhara and Maharoof -the decision is a bit difficult, but possibly Dilhara should be given another game ...
Sir Vivian Richards stadium, Antigua should offer better batting conditions , but the weather which has started playing a hand in these games and M/S Duckworth and Jon Lewis may have a part to play again.... So the toss will be tricky ...whether to bat or insert the opposition expecting Duckworth and lewis to give a helping hand...
This is hardly the bowling attack that SL faced when they won 5-0 .
Over confidance by SL could lead to their downfall.
I would hope they play Atapattu instead of Arnold.
I have changed my mind wrt playing Bandara. SL must play Murali, but hope some of the English Batters don't take to him like Chanderpaul and clobber him for 4-5 sixers as Chanders did the other day...With regard to Dilhara and Maharoof -the decision is a bit difficult, but possibly Dilhara should be given another game ...
Sir Vivian Richards stadium, Antigua should offer better batting conditions , but the weather which has started playing a hand in these games and M/S Duckworth and Jon Lewis
may have a part to play again.... So the toss will be tricky ...whether to bat or insert the opposition expecting Duckworth and lewis to give a helping hand...
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
It will be interesting to see how England go.... They have been very quiet in this tournament and this is one of the games I always thought they could win. I reckon if they lose today, you can count them out of the semifinal race, just like the Windies.