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Shaun Tait-Potential to be the fastest ever?

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Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I think some people here owe Mr Tait an apology - today was very high quality as well as being extremely quick.

There's no reason why he cant be very successful in test cricket bowling like that.
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
I think some people here owe Mr Tait an apology - today was very high quality as well as being extremely quick.

There's no reason why he cant be very successful in test cricket bowling like that.
To be fair, I think a lot of the people who were writing him off hadn't seen him bowl in domestic cricket. It's easy to see why, leaving his domestic record aside, he could be viewed as a Fidel Edwards sort of character based on the two tests and one ODI he'd played until today. He is capable of being a lot more accurate than he was on Friday though, as he showed this afternoon, and also in the PM's XI match against England a couple of months ago. And obviously, he bowls a lot of wicket taking deliveries. It's just a matter of how often he has his good days as opposed to his bad ones at international level.

Anyway, that delivery he bowled today would make him the third bowler to hit the 160 mark (99.6 mph) since speed guns became the norm. Though I think there's been a couple of wildly inaccurate readings for medium pacers that had them bowling in that range as well.
 

Son Of Coco

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
It has, presumably, but why did no-one else get bruised through them in Tyson's day and before?

They can't ever have been that bad. Larwood, for example, however fast he may or may not have been, struck many a painful blow (most notably, of course, on Woodfull and Oldfield at Adelaide in 1932\33, but they're only the 2 most notable of 100s of occasions). But never was he reported to have bruised a batsman through his pads.

If Tyson's case wasn't unique, why would anyone (never mind our Richie) even bother mentioning it?
It possibly was, but I was referring more to bowlers since then. He probably was the fastest of his time and before, and it's hard to compare i guess post-then.
 

Son Of Coco

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I think some people here owe Mr Tait an apology - today was very high quality as well as being extremely quick.

There's no reason why he cant be very successful in test cricket bowling like that.
Personally, I'm going to wait a little longer for proof of consistency. He did bowl well today though, 153 from the first ball was quick too. If he stays together for a while he may well become more consistent.
 

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Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Personally, I'm going to wait a little longer for proof of consistency. He did bowl well today though, 153 from the first ball was quick too. If he stays together for a while he may well become more consistent.
First time I've seen him bowl this season and I was impressed with the advances he's made in his action

Anyway, he's far and away the quickest bowler in the world and deserves an extended run IMO because pace like that can be gold
 

iamdavid

International Debutant
I think Lee is in decline now as far as face is concerned, the speed gun seems to be reading him 3-5kph slower on average than over the past couple of seasons.

As for Tait I think he's only going to get quicker, he's 23 if I remember correctly and Akhtar and Lee did not reach their peak in terms of pace until 2002 and 2005 respectively.....at which time they were 28 or 29.
 

The Baconator

International Vice-Captain
He reached 99 mph today, something wrong with the speed guns maybe...........
Yeah, they seemed to have been pretty generous in the last couple of games. When we played Aus, the spinners were pretty much in the low 100ks all the time, and Saj and Plunkett were pushing 150.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Haha, gotta love this distrust of the speedguns.

Your eyes are better pieces of equipment, are they?
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
First time I've seen him bowl this season and I was impressed with the advances he's made in his action

Anyway, he's far and away the quickest bowler in the world and deserves an extended run IMO because pace like that can be gold
And yet, amazingly enough, even while his accuracy was good, he took just 1 wicket...

Which, surely, had a lot to do with the lack of swing compared to that SCG game.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
To be fair, I think a lot of the people who were writing him off hadn't seen him bowl in domestic cricket. It's easy to see why, leaving his domestic record aside, he could be viewed as a Fidel Edwards sort of character based on the two tests and one ODI he'd played until today. He is capable of being a lot more accurate than he was on Friday though, as he showed this afternoon, and also in the PM's XI match against England a couple of months ago. And obviously, he bowls a lot of wicket taking deliveries. It's just a matter of how often he has his good days as opposed to his bad ones at international level.

Anyway, that delivery he bowled today would make him the third bowler to hit the 160 mark (99.6 mph) since speed guns became the norm. Though I think there's been a couple of wildly inaccurate readings for medium pacers that had them bowling in that range as well.
I'd certainly never seen him bowl 95mph inswingers, which he was in that SCG game. Funnily enough, of course, the game he ended-up bowling far worse in was the one where he actually initially looked more dangerous.

It goes without saying that someone who can bowl 95mph inswingers is going to be pretty deadly. It's just a question of if he can bowl them with enough regularity - and as I say, I barely saw either he or Lee get one off the straight in their opening spells at The MCG.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
How can you be more certain about that than a scientific instrument?

The speed-gun is infinately more reliable than the human eye.
 

PhoenixFire

International Coach
How can you be more certain about that than a scientific instrument?

The speed-gun is infinately more reliable than the human eye.
I repeat, I have seen a ball being bowled at 100mph, and one being bowled at 90mph, and there is a fairly big margin.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Me too, but, especially when those deliveries are 4 years apart, the human eye is not equipped to compare them.
 

Salamuddin

International Debutant
I think some people here owe Mr Tait an apology - today was very high quality as well as being extremely quick.

There's no reason why he cant be very successful in test cricket bowling like that.

Problem with Tait is his lack of consistency......I have very serious doubts as to whether he can produce those kinds of performances on aregular basis......and particularay so at test level.

He may become a decent ODI option like Lee.....but I just can't see him being all that great at test level.
 

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