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Indian domestic season 2006-07

adharcric

International Coach
Does this seem like a reasonable WC 15?

1)Sourav Ganguly
2)Robin Uthappa
3)Rahul Dravid
4)Sachin Tendulkar
5)Yuvraj Singh
6)MS Dhoni
7)Irfan Pathan
8)Harbhajan Singh
9)Agit Agarkar
10)Munaf Patel
11)Zaheer Khan

12)Sreesanth
13)Virender Sehwag
14)Anil Kumble
15)Dinesh Karthik
Sehwag will probably be included as a sixth specialist batsman unless Pathan bowls very well against Sri Lanka. Kumble might be the first-choice spinner at the moment but India should play two spinners in the West Indies. Even if we only have two seamers, Ganguly can bowl first-change.
Anyone know why Munaf's pace has gone down?.Remember seeing him in the England series and he was 140kph+.Now seems to bowl 130-133kph and I'm not sure why this is.Is it because of an injury?.
In one-day cricket, the drop in pace is intentional as he has chosen to stick to a line-and-length method. No problem with that. In test cricket, the drop in pace in SA was due to the injury and his apprehensions. He should be able to hit 140 in tests again but not consistently as his stamina is still questionable.
 
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Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Zaheer bowling Ganguly for a golden is quite funny :p

Mumbai in strong position, with Jaffer having a great match along with Zaheer and Tendulkar.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Watching two matches in action, this one and the Australia/NZ match, I notice a massive difference in pace. Lee, Tait and Johnson are repeatedly going over the 150's, while Bose, Sarkar, Dinda and their Mumbai counterparts are struggling to even get past 130. It is a nationwide problem and it's about time the BCCI does something about it. Spin is in safe hands, as the legends of the past can share their expertise with youngsters and we still see many youths taking to spin. But aspiring fast bowlers here have nobody to look to, being forced to convert to seam/swing or take to another skill.
 
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Dasa

International Vice-Captain
Zaheer bowling Ganguly for a golden is quite funny :p

Mumbai in strong position, with Jaffer having a great match along with Zaheer and Tendulkar.
Zaheer has had Ganguly out for a low score quite a few times, hasn't he?
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
A few highlights:

Ganguly is off the field for some time. That has weakened the bowling attack, as their stock bowler is now gone. The pace is dropping alarmingly, as Bose and Sarkar are operating in 110's, while Dinda has fallen to the 120's. Less said of Lahiri, the better.

Abhishek Nair just hit this offie for a six, just like Ganguly. Stepping down the pitch, he lofted him over long-on. He's a utility player (primarily a middle-order batsman and stock seamer) and has no chance of making the national side now, but Indian team could use such a player.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Abhishek Nair just hit this offie for a six, just like Ganguly. Stepping down the pitch, he lofted him over long-on. He's a utility player (primarily a middle-order batsman and stock seamer) and has no chance of making the national side now, but Indian team could use such a player.
I don't see any connection there obviously.
 

Pup Clarke

Cricketer Of The Year
Watching two matches in action, this one and the Australia/NZ match, I notice a massive difference in pace. Lee, Tait and Johnson are repeatedly going over the 150's, while Bose, Sarkar, Dinda and their Mumbai counterparts are struggling to even get past 130. It is a nationwide problem and it's about time the BCCI does something about it. Spin is in safe hands, as the legends of the past can share their expertise with youngsters and we still see many youths taking to spin. But aspiring fast bowlers here have nobody to look to, being forced to convert to seam/swing or take to another skill.
Pace is most certainly not everything to a fast bowler and when you look at the best in the world.Pollock and McGrath have never been renowned for having "pace".I understand that you might need a bit more pace and bounce on indian pitches but pace is most certainly not the be all and end all.
 

Anil

Hall of Fame Member
Pace is most certainly not everything to a fast bowler and when you look at the best in the world.Pollock and McGrath have never been renowned for having "pace".I understand that you might need a bit more pace and bounce on indian pitches but pace is most certainly not the be all and end all.
what are you talking about? extreme pace and the ability to hit sixes are all that a cricketer needs to succeed at the highest level, nothing else even remotely matters....:D
 

adharcric

International Coach
Arjun said:
Abhishek Nair just hit this offie for a six, just like Ganguly. Stepping down the pitch, he lofted him over long-on. He's a utility player (primarily a middle-order batsman and stock seamer) and has no chance of making the national side now, but Indian team could use such a player.
8-)
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
The first inning collapse proved death for Bengal. Was always going to be tough to come back and win such a tough match after getting into that position. Disappointing loss because of the first inning but at least Bengal tried to make an impossible come back. Well done to Mumbai and glad that it was a final played by the first xi's and top stars. Brought at least some credibility back to the prestigious trophy.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Ganguly, Tiwary and Gavaskar almost got them there but Zaheer Khan and AA made sure that didn't happen. What a ridiculous collapse just before tea, that must have been unbelievable bowling from Zak.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
I'm glad that the Indian team stars came back, but a bit dissapointed that the estbalished stars did well and not many of the others (except 1-2). Would have liked to see some others put their hands up.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
yeah, but you have to take into account that the last match was played on a raging turner. TN were THAT desperate to get a win and confirm avoiding relegation.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Academic commitments now done, I can now get back here. Please don't discuss typical Indian team selections on this thread. It's dedicated to Indian domestic cricket. Solutions thrown up by the domestic season may be mentioned. And there are many.
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First-Class Season wrap, 2006-07

This has been an eventful season, complete with heroes, controversies successes, disappointments and even a few laugh lines, especially from a forgotten hero from Delhi. The Duleep Trophy had some real competition from abroad, with Sri Lanka sending a full-strength reserve team that forced its way to the finals with two victories. That wasn't enough to stop North Zone from winning it.

Mumbai, with 36 Ranji titles to their credit but two years without a title, have had a very inconsistent season, starting dreadfully but for a turnaround against Gujarat, on the back of which they stormed into the semis, then the finals. Their final lineup, with Tendulkar, Jaffer, Zaheer, Agarkar and Powar, looked likely to win the final, and Title Number 37. And they did.

They have played like a team, with every player, one to eleven, frontlines to reserves, creating value in the team. Even as the Indian team's fielding was declining, the Mumbai team's was good, throughout the season, primarily due to the presence of several youngsters in the team. While the all-round abilities of off-spinner Powar and wicketkeeper Samant (limited as this may seem) were never in doubt, two youngsters, Wilkin Mota and Abhishek Nair, were very impressive with bat, ball and on the field. Nair is a middle-order batsman not averse to playing a big innings and is also a hard hitter of the ball, but more importantly, he's also bowled long stocks of medium-pace to support the strikers. Wilkin Mota, a swing bowler, has often scored vital runs in the lower order, as familiar stories of the top six falling quickly and the tail-end rescuing them came true again.

On the other hand, out in the North, the talented Delhi team's fortunes began to decline. Some of their players are exceptionally talented. However, they have not done well as a team, with a string of lost points and a defeat pushing them off the top spot. This team has been plagued with bad selections, and a recent CricInfo article shows how selectors are cheated into getting a few players into age group teams. The DDCA, the local association, is once again proven corrupt and incompetent, and cricket in the capital suffered. So much, that their very own star players are contemplating shifting elsewhere.

Virender Sehwag, in the news for the wrong reasons, has contemplated shifting to Haryana, and even Akash Chopra may do so, while our forgotten hero may go to Maharashtra. While it would be interesting to see how a Maharashtra attack with Nehra and Munaf performs, it's definitely a tragedy for this team that has contributed some of India's best players in history. One may feel for the tall young seamer Ishant Sharma, who's an obvious India prospect post-World Cup, stuck in a hopeless team.

Haryana was one unfortunate team, who were sunk into Plate by the fault-ridden, counter-productive first-innings-lead point system. That said, their batting was dreadfully inept, with a yougn middle-order batsman opening the innings. This team isn't even half as problem-ridden as Delhi, nor are they over-rated like the newly-promoted Saurashtra, but one player who will suffer is Joginder Sharma. After his team was relegated, and he only got one match, the selectors dropped him without hesitation. Given their aversion to picking Plate league players, he may never get another match, unless Haryana return to the Elite league (possible, once Sehwag turns up).

That Saurashtra actually won two matches and we saw so many draws shows that the much-touted Elite league hasn't had the best of cricket played. As mentioned in an article in The Sportstar, the less-talented (we may believe) Plate league has shown a lot more competition, and players play for a purpose, and for their teams, not their places in the teams. Services batsman Yashpal Singh scored heavily once more. He's scored well playing in all events, against even tougher teams before the Elite/Plate division in the tournament. But playing for a Plate side has weakened his chances of a national call-up, while some raw youngster from Mumbai barely 20 years old is already an India prospect.

This season has its fair share of heroes, some of them young, some of them who play roles which are vital in the national side. The Indian Test team's opening worries seem to have returned, and come to the ODI side as well. Robin Uthappa of Karnataka leads this season's runs tally with over a thousand. He's young, very effective on the field, and unusually, scores at a strike rate typical of hard-hitting all-rounders. More importantly, despite being a prospect for one-dayers, he's good enough to open in the longer version as well. While Ganguly may have got all the attention, his Bengal teammate Manoj Tiwari also scored heavily, over 900, and was also very sharp in the field. He's another prospect for the Indian ODI side after the World Cup, given the wide gap between India's best ODI batsmen or bowlers and their best fielders. Likewise Rohit Sharma of Mumbai, but he's still too young and raw for an India berth.

The strike seamer issue continues to dog the Indian team, and will keep on, as long as the Test seamers are frequently chopped and changed and little Agarkar is India's best ODI seamer. The season has thrown in a solution from an odd corner: Bengal. Ranadeb Bose, a giant swing bowler from Bengal, has been bowling long spells regularly, moved the ball off the pitch and through the air to good effect, even beating the bat more than a few times. His fielding may not be good enough for ODI's now, but may improve as he still has age and energy on his side. Lack of pace is evident in the speed-gun readings, but pace isn't everything, at least as long as the bowler at the other end is bowling fast enough. That bowler, however, is hard to find in India. And of course, there's Joginder Sharma, who's been among the top ten run-scorers and also a leading wicket-taker, and very effective on the field bar that one ODI he got, but nobody wants him in the side.

The Ranji Trophy has been a success overall, especially when it's produced a few stars and possible India players, but the Ranji OD series continues to get worse each season. We find matches played in club grounds, or in places with bad weather, in whites and with a red ball even as that's now a thing of the past, and most of the OD players are just plain mediocre and have no shot of even a Zonal team, let alone National. One can only hope all of that changes, and the Ranji heroes replicate their form here in the one-dayers as well.
 

Jungle Jumbo

International Vice-Captain
The Ranji Trophy has been a success overall, especially when it's produced a few stars and possible India players, but the Ranji OD series continues to get worse each season. We find matches played in club grounds, or in places with bad weather, in whites and with a red ball even as that's now a thing of the past, and most of the OD players are just plain mediocre and have no shot of even a Zonal team, let alone National. One can only hope all of that changes, and the Ranji heroes replicate their form here in the one-dayers as well.
I had the impression that the Ranji One Day Tournament was going to be played in coloured kit and with a white ball this year.
 

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