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Yousuf or Ponting?
- Thread starter PhoenixFire
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Beleg
International Regular
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He scored a century at Melbourne in his last tour of Australia, IIRC.
In any case, on current form, this is a pretty meaningless question.
Overall, Yousuf isn't even in the same ballpark as Ponting - one is (nearly) an all-time great, the other is a very good batsman.
He scored a century at Melbourne in his last tour of Australia, IIRC.
In any case, on current form, this is a pretty meaningless question.
Overall, Yousuf isn't even in the same ballpark as Ponting - one is (nearly) an all-time great, the other is a very good batsman.
Perm
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Ricky Ponting
Australia 62.91
Pakistan 119.00
India 12.28
South Africa 65.70
England 42.63
Career 58.22
Mohammad Yousuf
Australia 33.00
Pakistan 59.66
India 34.27
South Africa 18.33
England 65.09
Career 54.39
In conclusion, Mohammad Yousuf has yet to prove himself in South Africa, aswell as India and Australia to an extent. Ponting on the other hand performs very well in all countries listed except India which is a blight on his career figures and England where he averages less than his career average.
Australia 62.91
Pakistan 119.00
India 12.28
South Africa 65.70
England 42.63
Career 58.22
Mohammad Yousuf
Australia 33.00
Pakistan 59.66
India 34.27
South Africa 18.33
England 65.09
Career 54.39
In conclusion, Mohammad Yousuf has yet to prove himself in South Africa, aswell as India and Australia to an extent. Ponting on the other hand performs very well in all countries listed except India which is a blight on his career figures and England where he averages less than his career average.
Slats4ever
International Vice-Captain
when you've been on these forums long enough and have seen more posts then you can try to make comments like that without people laughing at you.dass said:
Admittedly I'm one of the most anti Indian and pro Aussie supporters here (I don't really care but, I'm from the country and that's the way I am).
Silent Striker's been one of the guys who quite regularly argues against my opinions so I pray that you tell me how that makes him anti-Indian.
Robertinho
Cricketer Of The Year
Ponting quite comfortably. Yousuf is in sublime form at the moment, no doubt about it, but he's not so flash when the going gets tough. Ponting, on the other hand... 156? 
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
You speak the truth! Except I might put Gilly above Yousuf, but I can see it either way.adharcric said:
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
dass said:
A) Ponting is not Indian, last time I checked.
B) Considering I only rate two Indian batsman, and one Indian bowler right now as being any good, your point is meaningless.
Over their careers:
1. Sachin
2. Lara
3. Ponting
4. Dravid
5. Kallis
6. Gilchrist
7. Inzamam
8. Hayden
Folks like Yousuf and Sehwag would come in after. Yousuf ahead of Sehwag though.
FaaipDeOiad
Hall of Fame Member
Really, you can't compare two players over a dozen tests against different teams, but overall I don't really think it's a contest. Ponting quite comfortably.
I rate Ponting's recent run of form as probably the best I've ever seen from any player, largely because of the way he has made the runs, rather than just the numbers. Ponting made quite a few of his recent centuries in difficult conditions where other batsmen struggled to score. Most of the wickets Australia played South Africa on last summer were quite lively and the bowling wasn't bad, and Ponting scored five centuries in those tests. The one in Bangladesh was on a fairly difficult wicket as well, even though the bowling wasn't the best. Only the runs against the West Indies and England at Brisbane have been relatively easy. Ponting has had similar runs of form in the past, like the period where he scored a couple of double centuries against India and so on, but they were easier runs, generally speaking.
I haven't seen too many of the recent games Yousuf has played, just highlights and bits of the England series, but obviously he's been quite unstoppable as well. Both of them are in with a chance to break the record for the most centuries in a year, too.
I rate Ponting's recent run of form as probably the best I've ever seen from any player, largely because of the way he has made the runs, rather than just the numbers. Ponting made quite a few of his recent centuries in difficult conditions where other batsmen struggled to score. Most of the wickets Australia played South Africa on last summer were quite lively and the bowling wasn't bad, and Ponting scored five centuries in those tests. The one in Bangladesh was on a fairly difficult wicket as well, even though the bowling wasn't the best. Only the runs against the West Indies and England at Brisbane have been relatively easy. Ponting has had similar runs of form in the past, like the period where he scored a couple of double centuries against India and so on, but they were easier runs, generally speaking.
I haven't seen too many of the recent games Yousuf has played, just highlights and bits of the England series, but obviously he's been quite unstoppable as well. Both of them are in with a chance to break the record for the most centuries in a year, too.
age_master
Hall of Fame Member
Yousuf isn't even close to Ponting
Slow Love™
International Captain
Haha, bad call.dass said:
I'd take Ponting. Though that walking across the stumps early in the innings would have me biting my nails.
Back to the question
No idea why people wander from the question of Ponting vs. Yousuf, but all irrelevance of answers such as where OTHER batsman rank etc etc - I think there are three main reasons Yousuf has not received the recognition or respect he deserves
1. He has been living under the shadows of Inzi
2. Even though he is classy by many subjective descriptions, he is still not flashy
3. A very ambivalent at best reaction to his name, appearance and religious change
Now all else aside - if i were to pick as of right now, i would go with yousuf. Yes Ponting has a richer past and is at par with Yousuf even now in terms of scoring, but how can you ignore a player who has been performing AND improving year after year - and lets face it, you can never neutralize effects such as bowler quality, rules and regulations, pitch conditions, health, opposition etc etc etc etc etc so the one factor you can go by is any given sunday, who is the man right now you would look to and say with out this guy, my team cannot win. Ponting is great, but i would challenge anyone who says that as a whole, the Australian team is more shaky in its performance than the Pakistani team. Yousuf has recently proven that day in and day out, the team may not perform at all, but there is one steady hand that will let lets the team latch on to in their chances of winning....
No idea why people wander from the question of Ponting vs. Yousuf, but all irrelevance of answers such as where OTHER batsman rank etc etc - I think there are three main reasons Yousuf has not received the recognition or respect he deserves
1. He has been living under the shadows of Inzi
2. Even though he is classy by many subjective descriptions, he is still not flashy
3. A very ambivalent at best reaction to his name, appearance and religious change
Now all else aside - if i were to pick as of right now, i would go with yousuf. Yes Ponting has a richer past and is at par with Yousuf even now in terms of scoring, but how can you ignore a player who has been performing AND improving year after year - and lets face it, you can never neutralize effects such as bowler quality, rules and regulations, pitch conditions, health, opposition etc etc etc etc etc so the one factor you can go by is any given sunday, who is the man right now you would look to and say with out this guy, my team cannot win. Ponting is great, but i would challenge anyone who says that as a whole, the Australian team is more shaky in its performance than the Pakistani team. Yousuf has recently proven that day in and day out, the team may not perform at all, but there is one steady hand that will let lets the team latch on to in their chances of winning....