capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Border bowler his team to victory against the mighty Windies though. Have more 10-fers than Lindwall, Garner and Bumrah combined.
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Would you play Keith Miller in your Australia ATG XI?
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subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
How viable would Miller be as an option for third seamer?
Red_Ink_Squid
Global Moderator
I think he's viable if you're playing O'Reilly and Warne together to bowl the bulk of the overs. Don't think you'd want to give Miller a full seamer's workload in a hypothetical ATG scenario when he didn't have one in his actual career (so if I was picking him in an Oz XI it'd be at 6 not at 8).
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
So Miller at no.8?
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Miller bowled on average 31 overs a match.
It's a different era, but Cummins as a regular third seamer bowls around 33 overs a match.
That's not a huge difference, no? Maybe Miller can take it especially if he bats 7/8.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Miller may not be particularly great at it, but he was a proper Middle order batsman, unlike someone like Botham.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Miller could bat at 7 and frankly may enjoy batting with Gilly at 8. I don't think his output is that much that we should be that concerned about switching his place as long as we know he will give lower order runs.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
That's the thing though, Miller's output I don't think will be less enough to warrant him bat at 8 either.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
It's an ATG side. I don't want to compromise on top 6 batting strength one bit.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
With Don at 3 and Gilly at 7, you think Miller at 6 is a big compromise.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
I think the 5th bowling role is overrated. Four main worldclass bowlers plus some support bowler is more than enough.
And with the best batters until 6 including plus Gilly and Miller, that batting lineup is unbeatable.
The only question is if Miller is good enough for third seamer. I think he may be though Cummins admittedly is more suited to the role.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
No, I don't think Miller should play as a 4th bowler really. By output he was a bowling all-rounder but by essence he was a batting one.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
If push comes to shove, I would leave Miller than allow the top 6 to be watered down. However I am still toying with whether he can fit that role.
Red_Ink_Squid
Global Moderator
That's admittedly a higher workload for Miller than I'd remembered. But still a WPM of 3 isn't great if you're using him as one of your frontline bowlers in a 4 man attack. I'd rather have Lindwall/Cummins/Davidson at first change (none of whom are bunnies with the bat).
HouHsiaoHsien
International Debutant
+1. Although I’m pretty set on Lillee over Davidson and Cummins(atm). Lillee was monstrous when on song
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
I would just rather take Tiger with already 3 pacers with me.
HouHsiaoHsien
International Debutant
Agreed. But I’d take Lillee ahead of Lindwall
kyear2
International Coach
Not going to lie, the one thing you've almost moved me on is Lindwall over Lillee.
The one advantage Lillee has is that ability to bowl marathon spells though. Especially with no full 5th bowler, that may be necessary.
Coronis
International Coach
Fun fact about Lillee, Davidson also bowled the same amount as him. iirc Lindwall bowled some marathon spells too.