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Woolmer on Afridi!!

Mr Mxyzptlk

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vandemataram said:
But strangely lately it has been all hits!!

If he continue like that than he will become a real dangerous batsman.
Then how did he manage to average to average just over 35 in a series in which he scored a century off 40odd balls? Perhaps it's because he didn't cross 44 on any other occasion? He scored 186 of his runs in that series in 3 innings. His other 3 produced 25.

Afridi "lately" (ODI cricket):

56*, 48, 17, 30, 23, 26, 31, 8, 0, 17, 40, 102, 44

8 of his last 13 innings are 30 and under. Admittedly a few were in slogging situations though.
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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That question shall remain unanswered until Afridi gets some more innings under his belt. I don't see any clear change in his game. He's certainly not in as amazing form as many would like to believe.
 

SJS

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Mr Mxyzptlk said:
That question shall remain unanswered until Afridi gets some more innings under his belt. I don't see any clear change in his game. He's certainly not in as amazing form as many would like to believe.
He scored 146 in 66 balls in his last two innings !!

Twice, just twice, in those 66 deliveries, he went forward with bat bent at an appropriate angle, head down over his bat, pad close to the bat(?), a modern day Jack Hobbs as it were, and twice he lost his wicket.

Dont know how much his game has changed. :sleep:
 

honestbharani

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If Woolmer thinks 20-20 games would go international, then yes, Afridi (to me,atleast) would be the most talented cricketer to play that form of the game. He would be soooo perfect for that situation.
 

Shahid_afridi

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well as you can see from my forum name i do think that afridi is one of the worlds most talented cricketers(in batting AND bowling)...some days ago he told a pakistani newspaper that the indian team cried after loosing the series HAAHAH.at the beginning of the series the commentators said that sehwag is the most entertaining batsmen on the world and at the end they said it was afridi......
 

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Shahid_afridi said:
well as you can see from my forum name i do think that afridi is one of the worlds most talented cricketers(in batting AND bowling)...some days ago he told a pakistani newspaper that the indian team cried after loosing the series HAAHAH.at the beginning of the series the commentators said that sehwag is the most entertaining batsmen on the world and at the end they said it was afridi......
That comment to the paper reflects very poorly on Shahid Afridi as a person. That you find that amusing reflects poorly as well.

Perhaps Afridi is more entertaining than Sehwag. I really don't care. Sehwag can bat.
 

godofcricket

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Afridi can definetly bat, he is exceptionally talented.....he can hit the ball like no one else, what he has done recently didnt happen in his career and that being he has started to score runs more consistently!!! Thats where pakistan can have a big big advantage, "IF" he continues with his consistentcy then we might aswell see a totally different pakistani side, the way afridi can give starts is like a dream for every team.....it completely takes off the pressure from the middle order. The way he has been hitting the ball in the series recently really makes me feel that he is making a permenant place in the side, he is going to be very useful!!!!
 

RealPk

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The first point i want to mention is that Afridi has always been very useful for Pakistan. And he can both bat and bowl as well.
Then you have to think over your reproach that he is just a good hitter of the ball. Look when he plays this awesome shots for four! They are so nicely struck that you might think that Inzi or Youhana are on strike.
But as he once said he loves to entertain and hear this knocking sound when the ball hits his bat thats why he prefers to hit more sixes than fours!
Nevertheless one in all you can say that there is some consistency in his batting to notice if you look at his runs in Australia and India averaging on well 30s (in Australia) and on very fast scored 40 (in India) but no thats wrong...He always scores fast...

For me Afridi is the best entertaining and talented cricket .....He is just my favourite cricketer and he is maturing!!!
 

atlanta

Cricket Spectator
Mr Mxyzptlk said:
That comment to the paper reflects very poorly on Shahid Afridi as a person. That you find that amusing reflects poorly as well.

Perhaps Afridi is more entertaining than Sehwag. I really don't care. Sehwag can bat.
hate to do this but what the hey, here ya go

http://www.rediff.com/cricket/2004/mar/25fais1.htm

and Irfan Pathan was heard rendering the famous Hindi song, 'Meri saamne wali khidki mein'.

The song surely would not have gone down well with those in the adjoining dressing room.




It seems as though the perm boy, the great Irfan "the next wasim akram" Pathan got a little too much excited after the win last year. If the next wasim akram can stoop so low, I don't see anything wrong with what afridi said. I doubt he said it though. Shahid afridi, can you please provide a link. So, can someone tell me what the next wasim akram did in the past series. :)


oh, forgot to mention this too. This is what the great dada said after the ODI last year. Link is the same one.

Singling out Irfan Pathan for special mention, Ganguly said though the young bowler does not have the pace of some of the other fast bowlers on view in the series, "the crucial aspect about him is he delivers".

It seems the jibe was clearly at the Pakistani pace bowlers who struggled for most of the series.



so can someone tell me what dada "delivered" in this series. slip catch practice for pak fielders perhaps. :)



Cricket players should be humble in their behavior. If they aren't, the game of cricket will humble them. And that's way more painful. Showape actor is learning it the hard way right now, the next wasim akram and the bengali babu needs to learn it too.
 
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atlanta

Cricket Spectator
RealPk said:
The first point i want to mention is that Afridi has always been very useful for Pakistan. And he can both bat and bowl as well.
Then you have to think over your reproach that he is just a good hitter of the ball. Look when he plays this awesome shots for four! They are so nicely struck that you might think that Inzi or Youhana are on strike.
But as he once said he loves to entertain and hear this knocking sound when the ball hits his bat thats why he prefers to hit more sixes than fours!
Nevertheless one in all you can say that there is some consistency in his batting to notice if you look at his runs in Australia and India averaging on well 30s (in Australia) and on very fast scored 40 (in India) but no thats wrong...He always scores fast...

For me Afridi is the best entertaining and talented cricket .....He is just my favourite cricketer and he is maturing!!!
I am not gonna go as far as to say that he is "maturing." It is true that he is in fine nick at the moment, but his batting style is such that he could fall flat in his face in the very next series.

I think people need to lower their expectation of what they want afridi to do. I think inzimam said during the past series that the team expects only one thing from afridi. To get them a quick fire 30-40. Anything more than that, they will consider a bonus. Plus, I think he can be a very useful bowler in ODI and test. The kind that doesn't take many wickets in ODI but keeps the run rate down. And sometimes run rate is more important than wickets in ODI. Plus the way he bowled in bangalore was a treat. Maybe occasionally he can chip in with performance like those.

But he is a TRUE MATCH WINNER. If he bats for even 7-10 overs, he drastically changes the complexion of the game. His batting can absolutely destroy the morale of the opposition. A 20 ball 40 hurts a heck of a lot more than a 50 ball 40 that some other batsmen might score.
 
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atlanta

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Mr Mxyzptlk said:
I dare ask what exactly you've done and what bearing does it have on my point?
what does it have to do with anything? :huh:

Hmm, good question. You said that afridi's comment was in poor taste. No need to tell the whole world who was crying like a baby. Right?

well, what was the point of the next wasim akram to taunt the other team when they were so dejected. What was the point of dada taking pot shots at **** bowlers in front of the whole world.

all three guys were guilty of the same crime. Publicly humiliating (sp) the other team's players. Now I won't go into whether I think it is right or not. But I do find it amusing that you think afridi's comments were in poor taste yet fail to understand how the next wasim akram's, and the bengali babu's comments can not be considered the same thing.

By the way, we don't even know if afridi has said it or not. I don't have a link. Shahid afridi needs to come clean with a link before I accuse afridi of taking pot shots at indian players.
 

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atlanta said:
what does it have to do with anything? :huh:

Hmm, good question. You said that afridi's comment was in poor taste. No need to tell the whole world who was crying like a baby. Right?

well, what was the point of the next wasim akram to taunt the other team when they were so dejected. What was the point of dada taking pot shots at **** bowlers in front of the whole world.

all three guys were guilty of the same crime. Publicly humiliating (sp) the other team's players. Now I won't go into whether I think it is right or not. But I do find it amusing that you think afridi's comments were in poor taste yet fail to understand how the next wasim akram's, and the bengali babu's comments can not be considered the same thing.

By the way, we don't even know if afridi has said it or not. I don't have a link. Shahid afridi needs to come clean with a link before I accuse afridi of taking pot shots at indian players.
And when was I ever referring to Wasim Pathan? I never mentioned him, let alone justified any action of his. My comment was purely concerning Shahid Afridi and thus your respose has no relation to it.
 

atlanta

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Mr Mxyzptlk said:
And when was I ever referring to Wasim Pathan? I never mentioned him, let alone justified any action of his. My comment was purely concerning Shahid Afridi and thus your respose has no relation to it.
I was trying to show you what might've led to his comments. When the next wasim akram or bengali babu takes shot at pakistani cricketers, it's only fair that they will hit back. Try to understand what might've led to his comments before you go around saying that was low of him to say that. This sort of personal attacks are common in a pak-ind rivalry. My comments were stated to prove that indians aren't such angels when it comes to cricket. I didn't want anyone getting the wrong idea that big bad afridi is taking unprovoked cheap shots at poor defenceless indians.

Again, I still don't know if afridi said something or not. It's all he said she said right now.
 
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Mr Mxyzptlk

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atlanta said:
I was trying to show you what might've led to his comments. When the next wasim akram or bengali babu takes shot at pakistani cricketers, it's only fair that they will hit back. Try to understand what might've led to his comments before you go around saying that was low of him to say that. This sort of personal attacks are common in a pak-ind rivalry. My comments were stated to prove that indians aren't such angels when it comes to cricket. I didn't want anyone getting the wrong idea that big bad afridi is taking unprovoked cheap shots at poor defenceless indians.

Again, I still don't know if afridi said something or not. It's all he said she said right now.
And yet somehow two wrongs dont make a right.
 

atlanta

Cricket Spectator
You are absolutely right. But world does not work like that. It's hard to turn the other cheek when the next wasim akram berates the pakistani team after a match like that. We can argue in a circle about who said what to who and when. But if afridi is gonna catch hell for a statement, I will make damn sure the world knows about what the other side is saying too.
 

Deja moo

International Captain
atlanta said:
You are absolutely right. But world does not work like that. It's hard to turn the other cheek when the next wasim akram berates the pakistani team after a match like that. We can argue in a circle about who said what to who and when. But if afridi is gonna catch hell for a statement, I will make damn sure the world knows about what the other side is saying too.
I find it incredibly pathetic to see someone sign up to the site merely for the purpose of maligning a bunch of players.
 

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