Will you be a walker?

[Robertinho]

I would also like to state that by walking when the umpire has given you not out that you are undermining and disrespecting his authority. He decides when you are out - not you, not the bowler, HIM.

 

[Top_Cat]

Brian Lara has, on numerous times, walked on disputed catches too. Steve Waugh's in 1995 and the dodgy stumping by Ian Healy in 1992 at the 'Gabba. As far as I'm concerned he takes it further than even Gilchrist or others by doing that.

That said, I don't think he should walk at all but then, everyone knows that.

 

[Top_Cat]

I would also like to state that by walking when the umpire has given you not out that you are undermining and disrespecting his authority. He decides when you are out - not you, not the bowler, HIM.

Actually, this brings up an interesting topic; why are we only berating batsmen for not walking? What about bowlers who appeal for, say, a caught behind knowing it's not out, the batsmen is given out and they don't recall them? Or LBW's? Why aren't we being as harsh on the bowlers?

In fact, wouldn't a bowler who get dodgy decisions go his way be more 'unsportsman-like' than a batsman who doesn't walk because they have multiple opportunities to get batsmen out yet batsmen only get one opportunity? A bowler has multiple opportunities to be the beneficiary of bad decisions in a given innings yet a batsman has ONE. So why the concentration on batsmen?

 

[Mister Wright]

Yes.
I don't judge walking by whether or not there's an appeal.

You're a fool if you walk when no-body appeals.

 

[Craig]

You're a fool if you walk when no-body appeals.

Garry Sobers did when he played for South Australia against Queensland in the early 60's or so. Sobers got a faint knick, Queensland 'keeper Wally Grout never appealed and said he never would have, and he would have been not out, Sobers just put his bat under his arm and walked.

 

[Nate]

tough one...

i dont think id walk tbh. i have walked once, hated it, and now i stand defiant

 

[honestbharani]

You're a fool if you walk when no-body appeals.

Kasper did that this winter at Chennai (I mean october 2004, obviously). Kumble and Laxman went up in what was just a semblance of an appeal that lasted a few micro seconds and then Kumble went to collect his cap from Shepherd and Kasper walked off. Is he a fool?

 

[Mister Wright]

Kasper did that this winter at Chennai (I mean october 2004, obviously). Kumble and Laxman went up in what was just a semblance of an appeal that lasted a few micro seconds and then Kumble went to collect his cap from Shepherd and Kasper walked off. Is he a fool?

I was watching the game live, there was an appeal. (If) Kumble collected his hat (it was) because Sheppard had given it not out.

 

[honestbharani]

I was there too...I live in Chennai and I was at the complementary tickets stand, which is right above the pavilion and therefore the best view... The appeal was so noiseless (compared to the usual ones by Kumble) that it was obvious that even he didn't think it was out. I know there was an appeal, but it was so unconvincing that there was no way an ump was going to give that out, not even if the most biased indian was umpiring.

 

[Mister Wright]

I was there too...I live in Chennai and I was at the complementary tickets stand, which is right above the pavilion and therefore the best view... The appeal was so noiseless (compared to the usual ones by Kumble) that it was obvious that even he didn't think it was out. I know there was an appeal, but it was so unconvincing that there was no way an ump was going to give that out, not even if the most biased indian was umpiring.

So then he walked after an appeal. Case closed.

 

[honestbharani]

I once saw Lara walk in the WC 2003 after nicking a ball, he never waited to see if there was an appeal or not.

 

[honestbharani]

So then he walked after an appeal. Case closed.

Well, he still walked when it was obvious that even the opposition thought that he was not out, given how small the appeal was and how easily they took the turning down. That is basically the same as walking when there was no appeal, as no appeal indicates that the opposition thinks that you are not out and it was obvious in this case that the Indians didn't think that he was out and they just appealed to add a bit of pressure, as all teams do.

 

[Richard]

Care to point out where walking is the norm.

In England it always used to be.

 

[Richard]

As much as I respect and admire people like Gilchrist who do walk, if it came down to it, I'm sad to say that I would not be a walker. It's a shame - but if the umpire isn't observant enough to notice a nick - it isn't your problem - plus the other team will have the same umpire - so it can work both ways.

But it's not The Game Of Cricket's fault that the Umpire didn't notice the nick.

 

[Richard]

I would also like to state that by walking when the umpire has given you not out that you are undermining and disrespecting his authority. He decides when you are out - not you, not the bowler, HIM.

No, what decides whether you're out is whether you've nicked\gloved it or not.

 

[Richard]

You're a fool if you walk when no-body appeals.

Why? Whether there's an appeal or not doesn't change whether or not you know you're out.
I don't advocate walking because someone else thinks you're out - I advocate walking because you know you're out.

 

[Richard]

Actually, this brings up an interesting topic; why are we only berating batsmen for not walking? What about bowlers who appeal for, say, a caught behind knowing it's not out, the batsmen is given out and they don't recall them? Or LBW's? Why aren't we being as harsh on the bowlers?

In fact, wouldn't a bowler who get dodgy decisions go his way be more 'unsportsman-like' than a batsman who doesn't walk because they have multiple opportunities to get batsmen out yet batsmen only get one opportunity? A bowler has multiple opportunities to be the beneficiary of bad decisions in a given innings yet a batsman has ONE. So why the concentration on batsmen?

Because it tends to be more prominent.
But I feel equally strongly about bowlers appealing for lbw when a ball has pitched a foot outside leg, I feel they should be banned as a fielder is for claiming a disputed catch.

 

[PAKMAN]

he sure didnt in the 1st test in mohali a few days a go

 

[Richard]

Evidently he doesn't very often at all.