Will you be a walker?

[honestbharani]

i dont think our media hassiad that he walks.The Hindu(with the place where u r from i think u had read it) had a report during the Mohali test saying that he should be walking refering to the incident in the last test where he didnot walk when he was given not out of the bowling of kaneria.what the media has been saying and which is almost correct is that he always take the wrong decisions by the Umpires in the right Spirit.

That article in Hindu was written by Nirmal Sekhar and he is a pretty good columnist. But I have seen reports in Sportsline and Sportscentre when they talked about how Sachin was amongst the few modern batters who walk and they showed that ONE instance when he WALKED against SA when he was on 97 and at his homeground where he hasn't scored a test hundred yet. Sure, that deserves to be appreciated but I find it silly to call him a walker. He always accepts the umpire's decision, whether it is right or wrong, and to be frank that is good enough. If you are a walker like Lara and Gilly, great. If you are not, and you do what Sachin does, then that is good enough too.

 

[honestbharani]

no, i don't. simply coz i stand there like a deer in the headlights and don't think, go mentally blank, just ****ing myself until the umpire says out or not out. i'm even like that when i don't hit it. and i've copped enough stinkers to not give a sucker an even break. its not as though me staying in will hurt the opposition anyway.

follow up question that anyone who has said that they would walk can answer. would you walk if no one appealed???

yes. I only walk when I know that I am out. It has nothing to do with whether the others know it or not. It is something I tend to do because it helps me love the game more, as there are not many 'honest' games going around. Plus, like I said, because I am a compulsive walker, I tend to be more careful while batting and avoid getting those nicks, knowing that I don't even have the second line of defence (the umpire getting it wrong.). I think it actually helps my batting.

 

[chekmeout]

i was a walker until not too long ago... but in the last couple of months i have got such BAD decisions i have decided not to walk for the rest of my life (That still wouldn't make up for the shockers I have been given!!)

 

[Richard]

its what i have always thought, ur the last pair u need 3 runs and u r given notout when u r out will u walk???

Beyond all question.
It'd be the biggest slight on the game if you had to cheat to win it.

 

[Richard]

follow up question that anyone who has said that they would walk can answer. would you walk if no one appealed???

Yes.
I don't judge walking by whether or not there's an appeal.

 

[Richard]

heck no! i dont walk even if its a regulation edge.. make the umpire do their job and make the opposition do theirs..

The opposition have already done theirs by getting the nick.

 

[Richard]

i was a walker until not too long ago... but in the last couple of months i have got such BAD decisions i have decided not to walk for the rest of my life (That still wouldn't make up for the shockers I have been given!!)

Nasser Hussain had a similar attitude.
He got what was perceived to be an interminable amount of bad luck in a short 4-month period.
It had evened itself out by the summer after.

 

[Top_Cat]

Not even if the Pope, the Queen and GOD (Eddy Van Halen) themselves were at the ground watching. I would rather accept that I get dodgies which go my way and against me on occasions and leave my luck in the hands of statistics.

 

[Richard]

No need to ask where you're from.

 

[Top_Cat]

A place called 'logic-land'.

 

[Richard]

No, one called Australia.
You'll get far more good luck than bad throughout a career, face it.
Not walking just makes exceptionally lucky into exceedingly luckly.

 

[Top_Cat]

Hey, you have a crack at me for being from Australia, I have one at you for what I think is an error in your logic.

You'll get far more good luck than bad throughout a career, face it.

PROOF?

 

[Richard]

Check something out.
Do a basic count of pro-Umpiring errors and dropped catches; then do a count of con-Umpiring errors - over a period of say 5 years for 1 player who's playing consistently in the Test-match arena.
Then figure that players don't get far more good luck than bad over a career.

 

[Richard]

Hey, you have a crack at me for being from Australia, I have one at you for what I think is an error in your logic.

Hmm, fair enough.
No disputing that your place has always been notoriously anti-walking, though.

 

[Top_Cat]

Hmm, fair enough.
No disputing that your place has always been notoriously anti-walking, though.

I prefer the term 'consistently', personally. 'Notoriously' has negative connotations.

 

[Richard]

And for me, not walking is a negative thing.

 

[Scallywag]

Hmm, fair enough.
No disputing that your place has always been notoriously anti-walking, though.

Care to point out where walking is the norm.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

I think Lara choices to walk and not to walk when he wants to. I remember a interview with Billy Bowden and he said he thought Lara was a walker so he gave him not out once when he nicked it behind. He had a look at the replay during the session break and saw that he nicked it. He is one of those guys that only walks when he has a hundred behind him or his team isn't in trouble. Sachin usally walks dosen't he.

Well that there shows that you haven't seen much of Lara. I think the innings you're referring to is the one he played against Sri Lanka in the first ODI in the Caribbean two years ago? He scored a hundred in the end there, but there is a chance that he genuinely didn't know he hit it.

Lara has walked at all different scores over his career, in all different situations.

Added to that, what kind of umpire makes a decision based on reputation? If a batsman walks off after a close one, then you can be very certain he is out. However, you can't give someone not out on the basis of "if he were out, he would've walked". Poor umpiring.

 

[Robertinho]

As much as I respect and admire people like Gilchrist who do walk, if it came down to it, I'm sad to say that I would not be a walker. It's a shame - but if the umpire isn't observant enough to notice a nick - it isn't your problem - plus the other team will have the same umpire - so it can work both ways.

 

[chaminda_00]

Well that there shows that you haven't seen much of Lara. I think the innings you're referring to is the one he played against Sri Lanka in the first ODI in the Caribbean two years ago? He scored a hundred in the end there, but there is a chance that he genuinely didn't know he hit it.

Lara has walked at all different scores over his career, in all different situations.

Added to that, what kind of umpire makes a decision based on reputation? If a batsman walks off after a close one, then you can be very certain he is out. However, you can't give someone not out on the basis of "if he were out, he would've walked". Poor umpiring.

Fair enough i'll take ur knowleage of Lara as fact as you have seen more of him. I just thought it was the other way around, TBH i don't really play too much attention to what he does when he get out, im too disapointed when he gets out, even when he plays Sri Lanka.

Anyway i still think no batsmen should walk until a umpire has made has decision. There are enough decision taken away from the umpires u don't need to take away nicks as well. If the umpire makes a bad decision then by all mean walk if u want to, but not before he makes a decision. Aleast give him a chance to make a decision

On a side note one of the guys in my team walks and on the weekend we played the SF and he nicked it behind and didn't walk. The umpire still gave him out but it just shows if the match is important enough u wouldn't walk would u, even if u are a walker. I doubt if Gilly in with McGarth and Australia need another 10 runs to win the Ashes and it is the last test and he nicked it behind he wouldn't walk, or would he??