No I never said that. What I did do was express concern as to how he would adapt his game to playing International Cricket as I still feel he may be too positive a player which could see some poor dismissals, but as it stands, I can't really see anyone pushing for a place in the middle order (Collingwood aside as IMO if there were a spot available he's take it and not give it up for a long time)Rich2001 said:
Yes, probably more likely.marc71178 said:
I agree with some of that Richard, IMO like you say Bell hasn't performed to his true ablity in the last couple of seasons, But his OD games has improved alot with him bowling a bit now.Richard said:Yes, probably more likely.
I'd prefer Troughton to Bell myself.
Still, I think Ramprakash has got a better case than any of them. Even with a New Zealand series around the corner.
Bell has no case for selection IMO; one good season 2 years ago. That's all he's done. Because it happened to be his 1st and he'd also done well at near-meaningless U19-cricket, it got people raving about him.
Having seen him play I don't doubt he's got ability, but until he makes it known he's got that ability I don't see how on Earth anyone can call for him to be picked in the Test-matches. Troughton, though, has had two good seasons, on the trot, and should IMO have been ahead of Collingwood who had a poor 2003 in FC cricket.
But of course, the fact that Troughton failed in ODIs (when he should never have been picked ITFP) was given far more weight. APU. :rolleyes:
Got any reasons for that?Richard said:
Remind me how badly he did in Sri Lanka and in the rather farcical game between indeterminate numbers of Englaish tourists and Jamaicans, which for some reason I think happened after the end of the English season and might have a certain relevance to this discussion.
No, it's just because he's damn good and Rice managed to turn him from an average batsman who relied more on his off-spin in South Africa into a dominating batsman who bowls some off-spin, which has fallen away, which is a shame. He's too good to leave out. There isn't a lack of batsmen, it's just that the selectors don't pick players who deserve a chance or work with ones who have shown promise...Tim said:
Even more :alien8:.Rik said:
IMO if Troughton hadnt lost form from the Natwest Series & Challenge he might have been in a few Test squads.Richard said:Yes, probably more likely.
I'd prefer Troughton to Bell myself.
Still, I think Ramprakash has got a better case than any of them. Even with a New Zealand series around the corner.
Bell has no case for selection IMO; one good season 2 years ago. That's all he's done. Because it happened to be his 1st and he'd also done well at near-meaningless U19-cricket, it got people raving about him.
Having seen him play I don't doubt he's got ability, but until he makes it known he's got that ability I don't see how on Earth anyone can call for him to be picked in the Test-matches. Troughton, though, has had two good seasons, on the trot, and should IMO have been ahead of Collingwood who had a poor 2003 in FC cricket.
But of course, the fact that Troughton failed in ODIs (when he should never have been picked ITFP) was given far more weight. APU. :rolleyes:
I was talking about the middle order batsmen who are waiting in the wings. You stated you couldn't think of any, but I can think of quite a few.marc71178 said:
