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Why was Andy Caddick a rubbish 1st innings bowler?

How do people rate Andy Caddick as a Test bowler?


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Richard

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It disrupts team harmony if you do this though. Sure, give the guy a shot in the arm for his first few tests and help him out but you can't accommodate someone for their whole career. He wasn't 5 years old. I have no doubt good man managers helped, but part of being a good man manager is taking in the team's needs as a whole and adjusting both sides to fit accordingly. Mollycoddle Caddick and you'll have 1 friend and 10 people who are becoming increasingly annoyed. At some stage the player in question has to make an effort to meet close to the halfway point.
It's not a case of mollycoddling, though. Hussain and Duncan Fletcher were excellent at basically doing what most would call mollycoddling but not allowing it to come accross that way. Hussain also commented on how, under their influence, Caddick made far more effort and was perceived as a "team man" in every respect where he hadn't been earlier.

It's a good general rule - treat someone well and there's a fair chance they'll return the favour.
 

Son Of Coco

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It's not a case of mollycoddling, though. Hussain and Duncan Fletcher were excellent at basically doing what most would call mollycoddling but not allowing it to come accross that way. Hussain also commented on how, under their influence, Caddick made far more effort and was perceived as a "team man" in every respect where he hadn't been earlier.

It's a good general rule - treat someone well and there's a fair chance they'll return the favour.

That's oversimplifying the Caddick conundrum somewhat.
 

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That's oversimplifying the Caddick conundrum somewhat.
Yeah exactly. What Richard is essentially advocating goes beyond just treating him well but treating him more well than the others which is pretty de-stabilising to the team. Psychologically it doesn't promote good performances in the person who's being treated excessively well because it alwasy spirals towards the person demanding more attention with it becoming their motivation. Fawning over egos is what poor man-managers do.
 

Richard

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Yeah exactly. What Richard is essentially advocating goes beyond just treating him well but treating him more well than the others which is pretty de-stabilising to the team.
It doesn't, really. If someone needs a bit more than some others, then you give them it IMO. Simple as that. The trick, as I said, is to do this without others thinking "he's getting the special treatment isn't he?"

This was what Duncan Fletcher was brilliant at. It is possible, and he did do it. And as a result, everyone realised that Andy Caddick was actually a great bloke.
 

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It doesn't, really. If someone needs a bit more than some others, then you give them it IMO. Simple as that. The trick, as I said, is to do this without others thinking "he's getting the special treatment isn't he?"

This was what Duncan Fletcher was brilliant at. It is possible, and he did do it. And as a result, everyone realised that Andy Caddick was actually a great bloke.
As evidenced by the fact England beat everyone they faced when Caddick was in the side.

Oh wait.

Sorry Rich, don't buy it. For mine, there has to be a point at which you wonder whether it's worth it. If there are other viable bowling options without the attitude (as they were at the time), you'd surely go for them. And England did.
 

Richard

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As evidenced by the fact England beat everyone they faced when Caddick was in the side.
:huh:

England beat most teams they faced during the 2 years in question. Only failure was South Africa in 1999/2000.

And anyway, as I've said hundreds of times - team-spirit isn't what earns victories, good players is. If your oppo is better than you, it doesn't matter how good your team-spirit is. This was emphatically the case with South Africa in the series in question. Don't judge a team's spirit by its results. It's highly unfair. Judge it by more reliable methods.
 

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:huh:

England beat most teams they faced during the 2 years in question. Only failure was South Africa in 1999/2000.

And anyway, as I've said hundreds of times - team-spirit isn't what earns victories, good players is. If your oppo is better than you, it doesn't matter how good your team-spirit is. This was emphatically the case with South Africa in the series in question. Don't judge a team's spirit by its results. It's highly unfair. Judge it by more reliable methods.
:huh:

You're nuts.

Can't be bothered arguing, truth be told.
 

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