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Why do England struggle to produce undisputedly great players?

Burgey

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This must be a cultural thing from what I gather. Is gravy used in a broader sense in the subcontinent than it is in western countries to describe a variety of what we would call sauces?
 

Adders

Cricketer Of The Year
Yeah, must be.

I was totally blown away in that Indian restaurant that had gravy in their descriptions........totally put me off. No ****ing Bisto in any Rogan Josh I know of.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Yeah but Bisto isn't real gravy either ffs.

Bisto is to gravy what Rustlers is to burgers.
While I agree, as a southerner you have little right to talk about real gravy. Go and drizzle a bit on your meat and leave the veg dry like the shandy-drinking tosser you are and leave the real gravy talk to the northerners.
 

cnerd123

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The fact that the use of the words 'gravy' and 'sauce' is such a major point of contention to the English speaks volumes of how dire their cuisine is tbh.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Quite the contrary. It's hard to think of anything better that doesn't contain alcohol, which is better than gravy.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Cakes in Asia are horrendous. Just throwing that out there.

In fact sweet stuff from Asia on the whole is pretty terrible. Easily the worst bit of my trip to Malaysia earlier in the year.
 

indiaholic

International Captain
Cakes in Asia are horrendous. Just throwing that out there.

In fact sweet stuff from Asia on the whole is pretty terrible. Easily the worst bit of my trip to Malaysia earlier in the year.
Indian sweets are a mixed bag. Some of the south indian stuff is horrendous but the Bengalis know what they are doing.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Some of the Malaysian stuff I had was just glutinous sludge. Literally, that is exactly what it was.

Loved most of the savoury food over there, but dear god.
 

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