Who wins in these ATG XI battles

[subshakerz]

And which ATG level squads did Australia face? They didn't hit their peak till Donald, Ambrose, Wasim either retired of declined. Balance is great but Warne wasn't this miraculous asset vs Lara and India, same with Murali vs Australia, Sachin, Lara.

What made the WI inevitable was the never ceasing, unrelenting attack from 2 ATG, and 2 great vast bowlers. Saw estimates that Sober's orthodox spin averaged 28ish, I'll take that. Rank turners, I'll take Gibbs, but remember what the did on the flattest / slowest of pitches in India '83, and with Lillee and McGrath they aren't bringing out those.

Hayden
Simpson
Bradman
Smith
Chappell
Ponting / Border
Gilchrist
Cummins / Lindwall / O'Reilly
Warne
Lillee
McGrath

Greenidge
Worrell
Headley
Richards
Lara
Sobers
Dujon / Walcott
Marshall
Holding / Gibbs
Garner
Ambrose

Anyone who wants to tell me that either of those squads are getting dominated needs to read up on the sport.

No Bradman, man.

 

[Coronis]

And which ATG level squads did Australia face? They didn't hit their peak till Donald, Ambrose, Wasim either retired of declined. Balance is great but Warne wasn't this miraculous asset vs Lara and India, same with Murali vs Australia, Sachin, Lara.

What made the WI inevitable was the never ceasing, unrelenting attack from 2 ATG, and 2 great vast bowlers. Saw estimates that Sober's orthodox spin averaged 28ish, I'll take that. Rank turners, I'll take Gibbs, but remember what the did on the flattest / slowest of pitches in India '83, and with Lillee and McGrath they aren't bringing out those.

Hayden
Simpson
Bradman
Smith
Chappell
Ponting / Border
Gilchrist
Cummins / Lindwall / O'Reilly
Warne
Lillee
McGrath

Greenidge
Worrell
Headley
Richards
Lara
Sobers
Dujon / Walcott
Marshall
Holding / Gibbs
Garner
Ambrose

Anyone who wants to tell me that either of those squads are getting dominated needs to read up on the sport.

I don’t believe anybody has used the word dominate? I certainly haven’t.

I think you are again, underestimating the value of quality spin, we’ve seen this multiple times recently, even on not turning wickets spinners can oftentimes get wickets where pacers can’t. The usefulness of having Warne be able to bowl a long effective spell and you being able to constantly rotate fresh ATG pacers like McGrath, Davidson, Lindwall, Lillee and Cummins shouldn’t be overlooked.

 

[subshakerz]

I don’t believe anybody has used the word dominate? I certainly haven’t.

I think you are again, underestimating the value of quality spin, we’ve seen this multiple times recently, even on not turning wickets spinners can oftentimes get wickets where pacers can’t. The usefulness of having Warne be able to bowl a long effective spell and you being able to constantly rotate fresh ATG pacers like McGrath, Davidson, Lindwall, Lillee and Cummins shouldn’t be overlooked.

The issue is I wonder if the 4th pace bowling option is going to make a difference at all if you are handling three ATGs already. But Warne does add variety.

 

[kyear2]

The issue is I wonder if the 4th pace bowling option is going to make a difference at all if you are handling three ATGs already. But Warne does add variety.

In a bowling attack with the top 3 options being McGrath, Lillee and Warne who's the most hittable and which two would concern our top order the most?

In a bowling attack of Marshall, Ambrose, Garner and Holding. Who's the weak link you're attacking, when you do feel you can let down your guard.

 

[subshakerz]

In a bowling attack with the top 3 options being McGrath, Lillee and Warne who's the most hittable and which two would concern our top order the most?

In a bowling attack of Marshall, Ambrose, Garner and Holding. Who's the weak link you're attacking, when you do feel you can let down your guard.

Warne isn't going to be too useful against a WI batting lineup I think.