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Who wins in these ATG XI battles

The better ATG teams

  • Aus and Eng

    Votes: 6 42.9%

  • Aus and SA

    Votes: 3 21.4%

  • WI and Eng

    Votes: 1 7.1%

  • WI and SA

    Votes: 4 28.6%
  • Total voters
    14
J

Jumno

First Class Debutant
Hunte
Greenidge
Viv
Lara
Headly
Sobers
Walcott
Marshall
Holding
Roberts
Garner

Simpson
Trumper
Ponting
G Chappell
S Waugh
Border
Gilchrist
Warne
Lindwall
Lillee
McGrath

Hobbs
Sutcliffe
Hutton
Hammond
Root
Barrington
Botham
Barnes
Verity
Trueman
Underwood
 
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capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
Jumno said:
Haynes
Greenidge
Viv
Lara
Headly
Sobers
Walcott
Marshall
Holding
Roberts
Garner

Hayden
Trumper
Bradman
G Chappell
S Waugh
Miller
Gilchrist
Warne
Cummins
Lillee
McGrath
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OP said no Bradman. So Ponting comes in for him, and Border comes in for Miller to balance out the batting. Would make some other minor personal changes like Gibbs for Holding, Cummins for Lindwall and Simpson for Hayden; but most definitely Haynes isn't making into the WI ATG team over Conrad Hunte, Roy Fredericks, Frank Worrell (a bit unorthodox, but he has opened the innings and is my choice) and even probably Chris Gayle....
 
Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
kyear2 said:
It's close, but Headley, Richards, Lara, Sobers and I rate Greenidge above Hayden and Simpson.
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I rate Greenidge similarly to Hayden, and Simpson is a clear step well above the next opening option for Windies.
 
Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
subshakerz said:
Same as me but I am split on Compton and Barrington.
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I thought so when I was a kid but nah.

Barrington 50.71 @ home, 69.18 away
Compton 60.04 @ home, 36.88 away

Both played 131 innings, Barrington scored 999 more runs, 3 more tons, 7 more 50’s, same amount of n.o’s, Barrington 41.1 SR, Comtpon 41.2 SR.

Compton’s peer rating is much higher but he really doesn’t have much going for him apart from that.
 
Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
kyear2 said:
I'm opening Worrell, so?
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Considering Worrell has a comparable opening record to Barry Richards, yes Simpson is multiple steps above him as an opener. (even just taking him as an overall batsman, Simpson > Worrell)
 
J

Jumno

First Class Debutant
Jumno said:
Haynes
Greenidge
Viv
Lara
Headly
Sobers
Walcott
Marshall
Holding
Roberts
Garner

Hayden
Trumper
Ponting
G Chappell
S Waugh
Border
Gilchrist
Warne
Lindwall
Lillee
McGrath

Hobbs
Sutcliffe
Hutton
Hammond
Root
Barrington
Botham
Barnes
Verity
Trueman
Underwood
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See my quoted post.
 
kyear2

kyear2

International Coach
Coronis said:
Considering Worrell has a comparable opening record to Barry Richards, yes Simpson is multiple steps above him as an opener. (even just taking him as an overall batsman, Simpson > Worrell)
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You think Simpson is a better batsman than Sir Frank Worrell?
 
Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
PlayerComparisons said:
Hobbs
Sutcliffe
Hutton
Hammond
Barrington/Compton/May
Botham
Knott
Laker
Trueman
Anderson
Barnes
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See, in theory this is what an English XI should look like.

In practice though, you’re sacrificing your biggest strength (especially in this direct comparison - your batting depth) for an extra bowler who is nowhere near the level of any of SA’s attack.

Whether we choose to include Procter or not, the attack is going to have at least 3 ATG pacers + Tayfield.

At best England can have 2 ATG pacers (if we consider Barnes pace) + Laker, and a borderline guy clearly a tier below SA’s worst option
 
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