Who is the best all-rounder in world cricket?

[King_Ponting]

ok. Ian harvey is a better allrounder than watson but i suppose cause he is too old he wont play for australia again

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

ok. Ian harvey is a better allrounder than watson but i suppose cause he is too old he wont play for australia again

Ian Harvey is a much better ODI bowler than Watson, yes, at least right now. Watson is certainly a better batsman, although neither have done much with the bat in their ODI careers. Right now I'd rather see Hopes batting at 7 than either of them.

 

[marc71178]

so in his last test match he bowled a total of 5 overs for the whole test match in a 133 over match????? doesnt seem like an allrounder really looking at that

ODI's and Tests are comepltely different animals.

If overs weren't limited to 10, I doubt he'd even bowl in ODIs

 

[aussie]

geez watsons been give 32 games to prove himself thats almost 1 and a half years woth of one day internationals. surely if he did have some talent he would have proved himself by now. 77 against kenya ...... hmm well thats amazing, he scored his only 50 against a non test playing nation.. Great stuff.

well maybe his highest score in ODI cricket has come againts a non-test playing nation but that is entirely due to the fact that he hasn't had the chance to bat much againts any major side, his bowling which is felt has the weaker side of his game is what is been give the chance to develop at the highest level and so far his bowling has showed much promise.

What the F**k , well if he didn't have any potential would the australian selectors continue to pick him?, i dont think the australian selectors would persist with him so long if they didn't think he had any potential for the future

 

[aussie]

A propose a question to u aussie going on your logic. Brendon julian has much the same record as watson, apart from his batting which can be attributed to him not playing against such weak sides such as kenya that watson has, yet his career spanded a total of 25 one day matches, watson has had 32 to prove himself 7 more than julian had. Get him out of the Australian team and get someone with talent in there. Sure it was alrite to give him ago but by now 32 matches he should have done something to prove he is worthy to play at this level

Watson has also taken almost 25% of his wickets against bangladesh and kenya. Yeh hes really quality stuff............. .

maybe he has taken 25% of his wickets againts BAN & KEN but has i have said time and time again before on other threads when Flintoff came on to the scene he didn't have much of a great start either buthe showed potential in both forms of the game but with more exposure at the highest level his promise has been fullfilled.

On reference to Julian he wasn't much of an all-rounder he was basically a bowler who could contribute with bat (but when he hit it, it stayed hit) something like shane warne and please dont start classifying ``Hollywood`` has an all-rounder.

 

[aussie]

If lehmann wasnt an allrounder u cant call watson an allrounder either, in ODI's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lehmann contribute an very important all-round role for the aussies with the ball, but cannot be classified has an genuiene player with capabilities to be a out and out all rounder in international cricket

 

[aussie]

so is symonds an allrounder then???

Based on what he does for australia in ODI cricket he surely is but he is not an all-rounder that can be successful in both ODI & test cricket

 

[aussie]

ok. Ian harvey is a better allrounder than watson but i suppose cause he is too old he wont play for australia again

at this stage of Watson's ODI career Harvey's bowling is better, but Watson is quicker than him and i'm quite sure in the future he will become a better than Harvey in ODI cricket.

In terms of their batting Harvey has a good record with the bat in first class cricket for Victoria, Gloucestershire & Yorkshire but had not translated that batting ability into ODI cricket for australia. Watson also has has a good record with the bat in FC cricket with an average of 46. At this stage thier even but i expect Watson to topple him in the future

 

[King_Ponting]

at this stage of Watson's ODI career Harvey's bowling is better, but Watson is quicker than him and i'm quite sure in the future he will become a better than Harvey in ODI cricket.

Thats a big call seeing as watson has done nothing special with bat or ball against anyone his best performance was against sri lanka at the waca where he got a middle order player out and two tail enders. In 32 matches he has done nothing. Also one of your above claims relating to watson performing as a bowler is utter bullc**p. An average of nearly 46 performing at any level of the game. his strike rate is also appauling consideing the lower ranked teams he has played. Strike rate of 58.66 in ODI cricket is certainly not acceptable. That compared to harveys one day record 30.31 average and a strike rate of 38.57. Watson has also played against the minnow nations bangladesh and kenya more times than harvey has in his 72 match career............ Watson an average player at most.

 

[aussie]

Thats a big call seeing as watson has done nothing special with bat or ball against anyone his best performance was against sri lanka at the waca where he got a middle order player out and two tail enders. In 32 matches he has done nothing. Also one of your above claims relating to watson performing as a bowler is utter bullc**p. An average of nearly 46 performing at any level of the game. his strike rate is also appauling consideing the lower ranked teams he has played. Strike rate of 58.66 in ODI cricket is certainly not acceptable. That compared to harveys one day record 30.31 average and a strike rate of 38.57. Watson has also played against the minnow nations bangladesh and kenya more times than harvey has in his 72 match career............ Watson an average player at most.

he averages 46 in ODI cricket yes, above i was refering to FC cricket where he averages 28. I agree that Watson now is an average player but he has all the talent in the world to become a top-class allrounder in the future even though he hasn't started off with a bang!!!!

 

[King_Ponting]

started off with a bang? Hmm i dont think so. Micheal clarke started off with a bang........... Watson did not and has not.

 

[aussie]

started off with a bang? Hmm i dont think so. Micheal clarke started off with a bang........... Watson did not and has not.

thats was my mistake, i meant hasn't started off with a bang