sirdj
State Vice-Captain
please do.Haha, I'll take a stab.
is 9 wickets in a 5 match series something to write home about??? If it is then we just have different standards.No logic there. Just because the rest of the team underperformed means his excellent performance with the ball means nothing? Why bother even keeping the records of players in matches/series they've lost then. You can't just disregard results you don't like....figures of 9 wickets at an average of less than 20 and an economy rate of 3.47 (!!) are remarkable.
Recently?? How many matches has Agarkar played in the last season?He certainly can be hittable, but recently Agarkar has been a much improved ODI bowler, and has rarely gone for many.
This was in reply to someone claiming that they are clocking 140, I merely said that they are not.What does hitting 140 or not matter? If they're bowling accurately (which Agarkar and Munaf have done), extra pace will be of little use considering neither will ever be express 150+ pace.
I did not state a fact, I posed a question. I hope you can understand the difference between the two.Actually, it seems as if you're the one without the facts. Again, you've seen a result you don't like so the solution is to make up some sort of criteria so you can disregard it. Do you have any proof that it was a fact that the speed guns weren't calibrated properly? If not, you have no grounds to make that claim.
What facts have I avoided, please list them. I don't accuse anyone of anything except a slight bias for their home country. Is that a wrong assumption. Besides its the people who have been arguing with me who dont think they need to use facts in their arguments.Again, take a look back at the posts in this thread and see who is really avoiding the facts. I'm not quite sure what you hope to achieve by throwing accusations at other forummers.
I did not begin by stirring things up, please check my first post on the topic. Thereafter, everything I have said has been in response to post by other members. Is a man not allowed to defend what he is trying to say? Or is everyone just supposed to confirm with the majority view??Hahaha. I'm thinking you might just be here to stir people up because thus far it's hard to take your posts seriously.
Ha ha ha ha..........which country is it that writes the name of their cricketers on Donkeys, stones their houses and threatens their relatives when they lose series??? I seem to keep forgetting that. Do you seriously want me to believe that Indians here don't feel the same way?? Indians have a habit of hyping things up and then taking a loss in cricket as badly as if they had lost a war. Just have a look at the Times of India and Hindustan Times websites and see all the 'India Shining' hype that they have on it all the time. Wonder why Sonia Gandhi has to remind them about not believing the hype?Irrelevant. Most of the Indian fans on this forum are pretty unbiased and can recognise negatives in their own team where they exist. Most also don't take kindly to being accused of bias.
Yes they have what you call genuine all-rounders, unlike a Pathan.Many of the other teams in the World Cup won't be going in with five frontline bowlers.
Proof of Indian bowlers falling apart??...and this is one of your facts? Where's the proof? All you've given are opinions, not facts.
Videocon Triangular Series in Zimbabwe 2005
IndianOil Cup SriLanka 2005
World cup finals 2003
Coca Cola Champions Trophy 2000-01 against Sri Lanka - where Jayasurya tore them apart.
Coca-Cola Singapore Challenge, 1999, Final against West Indies - where Powell pummeled them
Champions Trophy finals against New Zealand
How many do you need? When was the last tournament that India Won against quality opposition? In fact when was the last time India won against quality opposition because of their bowlers??
why don't you look up the facts for a change.
That line about match fixing was when Turbinator said that he did not need fact to prove his points. So I was just reminding him about what he himself had said a few posts backAgain all this talk of facts. If you're so concerned with facts, then show some!
I don't have to agree with collective opinion. I am not a sheep.You are entitled to think that...however, having been on this forum for quite some time and knowing most of the members, I don't think our collective opinions count for jack-****. If you really think that, I don't see why you're bothering to discuss cricket with us.
I am quite capable of forming my own. And who are you to say whether I stay or leave this forum.
I came to this forum out of my interest of the game. I posted a view which some Indian fans may find difficult to swallow. If that is the case then so be it.
I would like to remind you that the opinion of Indian fans is not = forum opinion.
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