Which cricket team has the best "Spin Department"

[silentstriker]

very little separates india, sri lanka and australia imo.

sl - murali (the best) + bandara (promising)

india - kumble and harbhajan (two of the top spinners)

australia - warne (second best) + macgill (great support bowler, takes so many wickets)

murali and harbhajan have been struggling off late though, so atm i think - australia, india then sri lanka.

on top form - sri lanka (cant beat murali), india, then australia.

The best at home spin attack:

1. India
2. Sri Lanka
3. Australia


The best away spin attack:

1. Australia
2. India
3. Sri Lanka

Overall, if I had to choose an attack:

1. Australia (Warne is so freaking irrepressible, I'd only play with one spinner)
2. India

 

[silentstriker]

1 Australia (Warne occasionally Macgill)
2 England (Udal/Panesar) = India (Kumble/Bhaji)

Is this guy the English version of NehraFan? England have nowhere near the spin attack of India. You can certainly argue for Warne himself being better than any other spin attack, but England is not number two by any sense of the imagination.

 

[steds]

Is this guy the English version of NehraFan?

Considering he's Sri Lankan, no.

 

[silentstriker]

Considering he's Sri Lankan, no.

So he is just insane.

 

[Sanz]

Australia
SriLanka
India
Pakistan
Bangladesh
NewZealand
England


This is obviously when teams play anywhere in the world, If we are talking about Best Spinners when playing @ home then :-

India
SriLanka
Australia
Pakistan
Bangladesh
NewZealand
England

 

[honestbharani]

India @ helpful tracks


Australia, Sri Lanka, then India @ other pitches.

 

[Ikki]

1 - Australia: Warne is just a force by himself, let alone a pretty good supporter in Macgill.
2 - India - Kumble & Bhaji: Two great spinners just behind the Aussies.
3 - Sri Lanka: Murali, enough said.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

It has to be Australia. Maybe not much variety, but I would take Warne and Macgill every time.

 

[TIF]

As for spin department, India looks like having only 1 world-class spinner now in Anil Kumble, who is highly under-rated as well. I am yet to see the day when even non-Indians will start comparing Kumble alongwith Muralitharan and Warne. I have tried to bring up Anil Kumble in Muralitharan v Warne discussions, saying that he is good enough to be compared with the 2, but then let alone non-Indians, very few Indians even really care for it.

Also, Harbhajan Singh looks like being over-rated as of now. Cant understand in a country filled with loads of quality spinners, how come Harbhajan Singh had had such long a run just due to a few good series. Harbhajan Singh, hasnt done much recently, going for runs even in those pitches where Kumble has happened to take loads of wickets. Its time Harbhajan got replaced by Ramesh Powar, Piyush Chawla or some other spinner.

As for spin-departments, more like choosing India, Australia and Sri Lanka, it better to choose between Kumble, Warne and Muralitharan and I would rate the 3 equally as of now.

Looking at back-up spinners, India has Ramesh Powar and Piyush Chawla after Harbhajan Singh, Australia have Stuart MacGill and Nathan Hauritz and Sri Lanka have Malinga Bandara and Upul Chandana.

As for Pakistan, they do have Danish Kaneria and Arshad Khan but they need to get in more regular spinners and not part-timers like Shahid Afridi and Shoaib Malik. And Bangladesh, has a good crop of left-arm spinners though with Mohammad Rafique, Enamul Haque Jnr and 1-2 more.

Rating spin-departments,

1 - India
2 - Sri Lanka
3 - Australia
(However the 3 teams are fairly equal)
4 - Pakistan
5 - Bangladesh
6 - England
7 - New Zealand

However, this thread shouldnt turn into a "Muralitharan v Warne" thread, as there is another thread in for that topic. If it becomes a "Kumble v Muralitharan/Warne" thread, its fine.

 

[silentstriker]

As for spin department, India looks like having only 1 world-class spinner now in Anil Kumble, who is highly under-rated as well. I am yet to see the day when even non-Indians will start comparing Kumble alongwith Muralitharan and Warne. I have tried to bring up Anil Kumble in Muralitharan v Warne discussions, saying that he is good enough to be compared with the 2, but then let alone non-Indians, very few Indians even really care for it.

Also, Harbhajan Singh looks like being over-rated as of now. Cant understand in a country filled with loads of quality spinners, how come Harbhajan Singh had had such long a run just due to a few good series. Harbhajan Singh, hasnt done much recently, going for runs even in those pitches where Kumble has happened to take loads of wickets. Its time Harbhajan got replaced by Ramesh Powar, Piyush Chawla or some other spinner.

As for spin-departments, more like choosing India, Australia and Sri Lanka, it better to choose between Kumble, Warne and Muralitharan and I would rate the 3 equally as of now.

Looking at back-up spinners, India has Ramesh Powar and Piyush Chawla after Harbhajan Singh, Australia have Stuart MacGill and Nathan Hauritz and Sri Lanka have Malinga Bandara and Upul Chandana.

As for Pakistan, they do have Danish Kaneria and Arshad Khan but they need to get in more regular spinners and not part-timers like Shahid Afridi and Shoaib Malik. And Bangladesh, has a good crop of left-arm spinners though with Mohammad Rafique, Enamul Haque Jnr and 1-2 more.

Rating spin-departments,

1 - India
2 - Sri Lanka
3 - Australia
(However the 3 teams are fairly equal)
4 - Pakistan
5 - Bangladesh
6 - England
7 - New Zealand

However, this thread shouldnt turn into a "Muralitharan v Warne" thread, as there is another thread in for that topic. If it becomes a "Kumble v Muralitharan/Warne" thread, its fine.

The reason I don't rate Kumble with Warne and Murali is because Kumble has not performed as well overseas as the other two.

However, he is #3 in spinners atm. If we just didn't happen to have two of the all time best spinners playing at the same time...Kumble would be the best spinner in the world in almost any other era (including the Spin Quartet era).

 

[open365]

India have Chawla,Kumble and Singh so i would go with them.

 

[Jungle Jumbo]

If you're going shopping for left-arm spinners, head to Bangladesh.

Mohammad Rafique, Enamul Haque jnr, Manjural Islam Rana, Abdur Razzak, Nadif Chowdhury, Saqibul Hasan, Mehrab Hossain jnr, Elias Sunny, Suhrawadi Shuvo are all slow-left armers

 

[silentstriker]

India have Chawla,Kumble and Singh so i would go with them.

I wouldn't put Chawla up there with them. He hasn't done anything yet, not even in FC cricket. They have Kumble, and Singh.

Chawla is not even in the Panesar category yet. Panesar has more FC experience and more Test experience.

 

[Richard]

Is this guy the English version of NehraFan? England have nowhere near the spin attack of India. You can certainly argue for Warne himself being better than any other spin attack, but England is not number two by any sense of the imagination.

JASON's a Sri Lankan, pal...

 

[Richard]

It has to be Australia. Maybe not much variety, but I would take Warne and Macgill every time.

I'd certainly take MacGill if I was a good batsman who wanted to score some runs.

 

[silentstriker]

JASON's a Sri Lankan, pal...

Yes, I already addressed that :P

 

[Richard]

As for spin department, India looks like having only 1 world-class spinner now in Anil Kumble, who is highly under-rated as well. I am yet to see the day when even non-Indians will start comparing Kumble alongwith Muralitharan and Warne. I have tried to bring up Anil Kumble in Muralitharan v Warne discussions, saying that he is good enough to be compared with the 2, but then let alone non-Indians, very few Indians even really care for it.

Err - that'd be because Kumble, even now, is nowhere near as good as those 2.
Certainly for most of his career, outside the subcontinent he wasn't fit to lace their boots.

 

[Richard]

If you're going shopping for left-arm spinners, head to Bangladesh.

Mohammad Rafique, Enamul Haque jnr, Manjural Islam Rana, Abdur Razzak, Nadif Chowdhury, Saqibul Hasan, Mehrab Hossain jnr, Elias Sunny, Suhrawadi Shuvo are all slow-left armers

And only Rafique is even a half-decent bowler.

 

[silentstriker]

Err - that'd be because Kumble, even now, is nowhere near as good as those 2.
Certainly for most of his career, outside the subcontinent he wasn't fit to lace their boots.

Agreed. Though for my money, he is easily the #3 spinner in the world. And if he was born in any other era, he'd be number 1.

 

[Jungle Jumbo]

And only Rafique is even a half-decent bowler.

Better left-arm spinners than Rafique playing today:

Vettori, Giles, Kartik, possibly Hogg, Mohammed, Panesar