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Where do you rank Bumrah's performance among the greatest ever bowling series?

OverratedSanity

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Wish he was fit for Sydney :crybaby:

160 still probably wasn't enough but man it would've been so much more fun to end the series with him giving it one last go.
 

Sunil1z

International Regular
Wish he was fit for Sydney :crybaby:

No
If we had drawn this series, we would have delayed the removal of certain players from the Team . Now these players can’t hide behind Bumrah.F63BCF2C-662B-4DF4-B923-B5EAE6B1D373.jpeg
 

Patience and Accuracy+Gut

State Vice-Captain
Larwood 1932/33. 33 wickets @19.5 I think. The impact and fear that he created probably has never been matched or surpassed.

On top of that, that Australian batting lineup is probably the strongest to have ever been fielded in Australian soil. Ponsford, Woodfull, Bradman, McCabe, Kippax, Fingleton.
 

Blenkinsop

U19 Captain
Frank Tyson in the 1954-55 Australia tour. Despite conceding 1-160 in the first innings of the first Test, he took 28 wickets at 20.82 in the series as a whole and basically won the Ashes for England.
 

Prince EWS

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Yeah apparently he was heard on the stump mic in Melbourne on that fateful afternoon saying "bas abhi, nahi lag raha zor" which I'm told the tl;dr is basically "I'm done". But Rohit kept going back to him anyway.

I do remember his body language in that last session of the day really deteriorated, that was the first time all series he looked properly worn down mentally as well as physically
@silentstriker
 

centurymaker

Cricketer Of The Year
And Bumrah missed out on Syndey's "spciest pitch". Rohit should have never returned from his paternity leave.

If you have to rely on your best bowler even for 10th wicket, may as well as forfeit the match. In any case, longer Boland and Lyon batted, better were the chances for India to draw.
That's exactly what I was thinking. Why the hell were India trying to get them out especially on day 5??

Should have allowed them to bat for 8-10 overs. Would have brought the total overs down to about 84-86 which could have made the draw easier.

This is why I think Gambhir has no cricketing sense. He has already openly stated that he doesn't believe in data or analytics. Kept playing with only 3 proper bowlers the entire series. Absolutely clueless. Persisted with two spin allrounders on green seamers. Gambhir is as dumb as they get. Hope he is sacked from tests at least.
 

Bahnz

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The lack of consistent support, and thinness of fourth/fifth options, really stands out to me (as well as having a crap captain) as elevating this performance. If we look at Johnson 13/14 for example, yes he was more destructive (on much less helpful surfaces), but he was assisted massively by having a full complement of supporting bowlers who also bowled very well (Harris in particular was exceptional), and a captain who knew full well what he had on his hands and how to use him and so only deployed him very judiciously in short bursts to maximise his output. Meanwhile you have Bumrah on the stump mic pleading with Rohit to bowl ****ing someone else because he is all tapped out but nope gotta keep milking that cow again for the ninth spell of the day.
Yeah most similar to Hadlee's efforts in the 80's in that regard. His bowling on day 4 at the MCG had shades of Hadlee's effort in the 87/88 boxing day test when the great man bowled 75 out of 238 overs, including 31 in a day.
 

Burgey

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I don't see any need to exclude spinners from the discussion, and I don't think I've seen a better series of bowling from anyone.

He didn't have an elite group of support bowlers to compare his efforts with, but he was up against some real quality/ great bowlers in the opposing side and he comfortably surpassed all of them. I know these were good bowling decks, but his skillset is capable of taking pitches out of the equation, which puts him ahead of Boland's efforts for Aus, as good as he was.

I mentioned after Perth he reminds me a lot of Akram in terms of his skill set - abbreviated approach, genuine pace, fast arm action, makes the ball talk, terrific yorker, good bouncer. If anything his action makes him even harder to pick up.

I think he's as good a bowler as I've seen tour here tbh. His skill set means he's effective in all conditions. He bowls well to left and right handers, challenges both edges and can do you over with pace alone if he has to. The only reason I would rate visting bowlers like Marshall, Hadlee, Ambrose and Steyn over him is their longevity, but to me he's as good as any of those guys. I've got him right up there with them and with McGrath as a bowler. A genuine privilege to watch him go about it.
 
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centurymaker

Cricketer Of The Year
His reverse swing is equally delightful to watch. I am reminded of his spells vs England both home and away. Hoping for more of the same in 5-6 months.
 

TheJediBrah

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That's exactly what I was thinking. Why the hell were India trying to get them out especially on day 5??

Should have allowed them to bat for 8-10 overs. Would have brought the total overs down to about 84-86 which could have made the draw easier.

This is why I think Gambhir has no cricketing sense. He has already openly stated that he doesn't believe in data or analytics. Kept playing with only 3 proper bowlers the entire series. Absolutely clueless. Persisted with two spin allrounders on green seamers. Gambhir is as dumb as they get. Hope he is sacked from tests at least.
They really thought they had a good chance of chasing it though and winning the game, which in hindsight is easy to say was optimistic but they'd just come off their tail batting for a day making like 200 runs themselves
 
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Randomfan

Cricket Spectator
The best bowling series I have seen by any bowler in more than 3 decades.

It was impressive due to doing it without support, doing it away and doing it against the best test team in recent years. If Aus is not the best then 2nd best for sure. Normally I remember bowlers having an outlier series against minnows/bottome tier teams and some time at home against good teams. I don't even recall anyone doing it away against the best team.

May be some one can list historical good series by bowlers away against the top teams, if not the best, of their era.

I wish he was not injured and bowled in the most helpful pitch in the 5th test. Who knows, we may have witnessed even more thrilling ending of series. It was a small target so I feel Aus would have gotten those runs, but i would have liked Aus getting those runs with Bumrah bowling.

It was great while it lasted and glad to have seen it live.
 

Spark

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Just a back spasm. Haven't determined how serious. For context the recommended rehab time for a back spasm is:

Grade 1: 2-4 weeks
Grade 2: 6-8 weeks
Grade 3: 3 months
I couldn't believe that "Grade 3 back spasm" has a 3 month recovery time so I went to check - now I can't believe that that's called merely a "spasm" or "strain", the description sounds deeply unpleasant.
 

OverratedSanity

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Just a back spasm. Haven't determined how serious. For context the recommended rehab time for a back spasm is:

Grade 1: 2-4 weeks
Grade 2: 6-8 weeks
Grade 3: 3 months
"Spasm" is just something Prasidh said about Bumrah's injury IIRC. Could be something serious like his stress fracture again but I hope not.
 

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