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What if Tendulkar was an Aussie ?

Turbinator

Cricketer Of The Year
adharcric said:
This thread has turned into an absolute disaster. Here's my take ...

Tendulkar is probably the greatest batting prodigy the cricketing world has seen in the past few decades and almost certainly a greater teen prodigy than Ponting was. He may have been good enough to make the Aussie side at the age of 18, but there is more to the story. Breaking into first-class cricket in your teens, regardless of how talented you may be, can be very difficult in Australia. Ponting's case was also influenced by where he came from. That said, Tendulkar may or may not have made the Aussie side in his teens; this depends on which part of Australia he came from and other factors.

IMO, Tendulkar would definitely have been good enough to make the Aussie side at the age of 18. He might not have actually made it though.

Everyone here has a semblance of an argument (C_C included, despite some of the conclusions a few you have jumped to) but there is a seriously inability to see the other side's POV. There are a few who have come in as usual and made the typically sly, useless remarks that they have a habit of making. That's all I have to say on this matter.
If you're talking about me, the only reason why I did so, and which was only like 4 posts, was because this thread was already a disaster and almost everyone's remarks TBH were becoming useless... But I hope you weren't talking about me...
 

Dasa

International Vice-Captain
Turbinator said:
If you're talking about me, the only reason why I did so, and which was only like 4 posts, was because this thread was already a disaster and almost everyone's remarks TBH were becoming useless... But I hope you weren't talking about me...
Don't worry, it's not you.
 

adharcric

International Coach
silentstriker said:
If you mean me, you're probably right. I'll just extricate myself from this thread now.
Although you are very good at making sly, useless remarks, I wasn't referring to you. :p
Turbinator said:
If you're talking about me, the only reason why I did so, and which was only like 4 posts, was because this thread was already a disaster and almost everyone's remarks TBH were becoming useless... But I hope you weren't talking about me...
Dasa was right on. Not you.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
adharcric said:
Although you are very good at making sly, useless remarks, I wasn't referring to you. :p
Mate, there isn't anyone left. And for the record I did give my opinions earlier in the thread but I can't stand when certain posters say certain things that just kind of make me go WTF? Especially when they start demeaning things/people.
 

Dasa

International Vice-Captain
silentstriker said:
Mate, there isn't anyone left.
I have a feeling the reference was to a certain long-time forummer. Actually seems pretty obvious who adharcric is reffering to.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Dasa said:
I have a feeling the reference was to a certain long-time forummer.
Don't know - I think marc made some good points. I have to agree with him that it would be exceedingly difficult for Tendulkar to make a debut before age of 20, same age as Ponting, regardless of how he did in FC.
 

Dasa

International Vice-Captain
silentstriker said:
Don't know - I think marc made some good points.
I don't see that. I see him ignoring anything that refutes his points and then pegging himself on to other people's arguments.
 

adharcric

International Coach
silentstriker said:
Don't know - I think marc made some good points. I have to agree with him that it would be exceedingly difficult for Tendulkar to make a debut before age of 20, same age as Ponting, regardless of how he did in FC.
You clearly haven't been around CW too long or else haven't paid too much attention to his posts in your time here.

By the way, I didn't want this to turn in to a poster-bashing fiasco. I don't like the nature of Marc's posts but no offense intended to him personally.
 

Turbinator

Cricketer Of The Year
Dasa said:
I don't see that. I see him ignoring anything that refutes his points and then pegging himself on to other people's arguments.
How do you know all this, how do you know what and who adharcric is talking about. Either you're psychic or I am trippin' out... :laugh:
 

Krishna_j

U19 12th Man
Compare the bowlers when Tendulkar started playing in early 90's to present 2006 attacks:

Pak : Akram , Waqar , Imran , Qadir
Aus : Mc Dermott , Merv , Alderman
WI : Ambrose , Marshall , Bishop , Walsh
NZ : Hadlee, Morrison
Eng: Botham , Emburey , Phil De freitas , Fraser
Ind : Kapil , Prabhakar,Shastri

Pak , Wi , Eng , Nz,Ind attacks are all much lowere only Aus looks stronger - runs scored in mid 90's are at a much higher 'premium' compared to some of the 'easier' runs against attacks in 2006
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Krishna_j said:
Compare the bowlers when Tendulkar started playing in early 90's to present 2006 attacks:

Pak : Akram , Waqar , Imran , Qadir
Aus : Mc Dermott , Merv , Alderman
WI : Ambrose , Marshall , Bishop , Walsh
NZ : Hadlee, Morrison
Eng: Botham , Malcolm , Phil De freitas , Fraser
Ind : Kapil , Prabhakar,Shastri

Pak , Wi , Eng , Nz,Ind attacks are all much lowere only Aus looks stronger - runs scored in mid 90's are at a much higher 'premium' compared to some of the 'easier' runs against attacks in 2006
Tendulkar's prime didn't come in the early nineties. He came into his own in the mid and late nineties, so the attacks from 1995-2000 or so would be more appropriate.
 

Krishna_j

U19 12th Man
not sure what u mean by prime - is it wrt one day or tests ?

if it is in tests - Tendulkar has played only 1 5 test series in his entire career - all the rest have been 3 or 4 match series and there has'nt been much diff in his scoring pattern

wrt one day cricket I agree - he was a late bloomer
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
As an example, I do not believe that Malcolm Marshall and Richard Hadlee have ever faced Tendulkar, let alone facing them in their primes (let alone his own).
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Krishna_j said:
not sure what u mean by prime - is it wrt one day or tests ?

if it is in tests - Tendulkar has played only 1 5 test series in his entire career - all the rest have been 3 or 4 match series and there has'nt been much diff in his scoring pattern

wrt one day cricket I agree - he was a late bloomer
Tests of course. And what does having played five test series have to do with anything?
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
His test average from 1989-1993 was only 37. So he clearly wasn't at his best then. His average from 1994-2002 is 61.

His prime was clearly later.
 

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