Wastemen etc

[GoodAreasShane]

Gave vegetarianism a go for a while, more for my girlfriend at the time than anything else. Wasn't terrible, just a bit boring

 

[Flametree]

Yeah but what about chicken. I can live without steak and beef, and even lamb, if absolutely necessary but there's no way I could stop eating chicken. Or ham/bacon when it's on Pizza or in a burger for that matter. I'd be a vegetarian if you're allowed to eat chicken and ham/bacon, and lamb in kebabs and meatlovers pizzas and whatever the meat in burgers is. But I don't think they invented the term for that yet.

I think the term is carnivore.

I did wonder how even CW members could make a thread on Yusuf Pathan last 6 pages...

 

[TheJediBrah]

Ok I'm a carnivore vegetarian

 

[ankitj]

There are other flaws with Jainism tho. Basically there is a flaw with the basic presumptions they make.

'Killing is Bad' - well no, sometimes you need to harvest and hunt to maintain a balanced eco system, its sometimes beneficial to kill in the bigger picture

'Humans should have minimal influence on the Earth' - It's hypocritical - the belief that we must be held to some superior morale standard over every other living creature is built entirely on our ability to influence the Earth. If we weren't capable of this great ability to change the planet, we wouldn't be assuming ourselves as the natural caretakers of it. To then state that we should not do the thing we are so great at doing is akin to asking birds not to fly or fish not to swim. It's dumb. We absolutely should influence the Earth, we should just be better when we do it.

'All living things are made equal and all have a soul, we must kill as little as we can' - Do you really think you're being kind to the poor carrot plants soul by not eating it? That it's got this amazing life that you are cutting short? Wouldn't it be kinder to just kill it and let it's soul pass on to a new, far better existence? Besides, everyone dies. May as well send these plants and animals packing once they're coming to the end of the lifecycle and use their carcasses to nourish those who still live.

Not all living things are considered equal from the perspective of pain that they can perceive. Plants are believed to have lowest ability to feel pain hence vegetarianism. But monks (and some common people) go farther too during festivals: no fresh fruits or vegetables, only pulses, dried fruits etc. In childhood I have gone through 10 day festival period without eating any fruits and vegetables. Don't do it anymore of course.

These flaws don't bother me though. The ones that bother me are casteism (apparently Jains are the pinnacle of purity so can't come in contact with people of lot of other casts) and ***ism (women have to be reborn as men before achieving Moksha in some sects).

 

[ankitj]

Here's a joke for you all: A Jain guy said he is a foodie.

Yeah, that's the joke.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Hahaha



I don't get it

 

[cnerd123]

Hahaha



I don't get it

Your posts are a joke

 

[Burgey]

There are other flaws with Jainism tho. Basically there is a flaw with the basic presumptions they make.

'Killing is Bad' - well no, sometimes you need to harvest and hunt to maintain a balanced eco system, its sometimes beneficial to kill in the bigger picture

'Humans should have minimal influence on the Earth' - It's hypocritical - the belief that we must be held to some superior morale standard over every other living creature is built entirely on our ability to influence the Earth. If we weren't capable of this great ability to change the planet, we wouldn't be assuming ourselves as the natural caretakers of it. To then state that we should not do the thing we are so great at doing is akin to asking birds not to fly or fish not to swim. It's dumb. We absolutely should influence the Earth, we should just be better when we do it.

'All living things are made equal and all have a soul, we must kill as little as we can' - Do you really think you're being kind to the poor carrot plants soul by not eating it? That it's got this amazing life that you are cutting short? Wouldn't it be kinder to just kill it and let it's soul pass on to a new, far better existence? Besides, everyone dies. May as well send these plants and animals packing once they're coming to the end of the lifecycle and use their carcasses to nourish those who still live.

Take it to the politics subbie, ****. Have your philosophical discussion there. This thread is, like all of CC, about food.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Your posts are a joke

Your posts are a face

 

[Burgey]

Your face is a post

 

[cnerd123]

Your is joke a face

 

[Adders]

***** face looks like it's been smashed by a post.

 

[Burgey]

Just like your evidence.

 

[trundler]

***** face looks like it's been smashed by a post.

Why don't you make a thread on it and I'll participate if I feel so inclined

 

[karan316]

'All living things are made equal and all have a soul, we must kill as little as we can' - Do you really think you're being kind to the poor carrot plants soul by not eating it? That it's got this amazing life that you are cutting short? Wouldn't it be kinder to just kill it and let it's soul pass on to a new, far better existence? Besides, everyone dies. May as well send these plants and animals packing once they're coming to the end of the lifecycle and use their carcasses to nourish those who still live.

Not saying this from a religious POV, but there is a difference in the threshold of pain, plants hardly feel anything.

And on a another note, if you go back in time, even slavery was considered ok at one point of time, but was it right? We need to keep evolving, we are at the top of the food chain and can reduce a lot of suffering from our food and lifestyle choices.

 

[cnerd123]

So what you're saying is that plants are modern-day slaves?

 

[Burgey]

Just like your posts.

 

[Adders]

Why don't you make a thread on it and I'll participate if I feel so inclined

Hmmm, I think we'd get bored of ***** face pretty quickly tbh.......I am however contemplating starting a thread titled "Shri's daily **** ups".

It can be a place where Shri can post daily on all his little faus pas, things like......."I found a jelly bean stuffed down the back of the couch so I thought I'd see if I could eat it through my nose. I'm posting this from casualty "

 

[Burgey]

As everyone values my opinion so highly on this forum because I am in fact its doyen, I can confirm Shri is as nice a bloke as you could meet.

Simple, and a bit of a klutz, but a terrific fella nonetheless.

 

[Mr Miyagi]

As everyone values my opinion so highly on this forum because I am in fact its doyen, I can confirm Shri is as nice a bloke as you could meet.

Simple, and a bit of a klutz, but a terrific fella nonetheless.

You may never be a partner, but you're always a moderator to me Burgey.

This forum needs more binga.