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Who the better batsman

  • Ajay Jadeja

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • Mahmudullah

    Votes: 11 84.6%

  • Total voters
    13

Borges

International Regular
I'd have thought that if Pant was to be picked, it would be over Karthik as the reserve wicket keeper; probably would have been a better choice.
He hasn't done anywhere enough to merit a place as a pure batsman.
 

Andy1993

U19 Cricketer
Rayudu is hard done by IMO, i would have picked him or at least had him in 15....if not then Pant...but not Shankar the guy is so over-rated!
 

vcs

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Well, no one really rates Shankar though.. aside from the Indian selectors, which is probably what matters.
 

stephen

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Living proof that ODI stats mean jack ****. Probably the worst player with stats like that. I can't wrap my head around how Buttler can average and be one of the best going around while hacks like Rayudu and Imam can average that high.
ODI stats post 2015 are completely ridiculous. Two new balls just gives batsmen a massive advantage.
 

stephen

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
1990s India (the fastest scoring team in the 90s) scored at 4.73 RPO. In the last 3 years that would place them behind England (6.24), South Africa (5.73), India (5.70), Australia (5.67), New Zealand (5.54), Pakistan (5.45), Sri Lanka (5.27), Scotland (5.14), Bangladesh (5.14), West Indies (5.10), Ireland (4.82) and Afghanistan (4.81).
 
1990s India (the fastest scoring team in the 90s) scored at 4.73 RPO. In the last 3 years that would place them behind England (6.24), South Africa (5.73), India (5.70), Australia (5.67), New Zealand (5.54), Pakistan (5.45), Sri Lanka (5.27), Scotland (5.14), Bangladesh (5.14), West Indies (5.10), Ireland (4.82) and Afghanistan (4.81).
The openers of the 90s would bat like over a 100 balls for a 40?
 

stephen

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
1990s Australia (the highest averaging side) averaged 32.69 RPW. In the last 3 years that would place them behind India (45.92) England (42.58), South Africa (38.35), Pakistan (38.09), Australia (34.44) and New Zealand (34.01).

Modern ODIs have stupid run rates and averages compared to those of 20 years before (or one Tendulkar career).
 

stephen

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
The openers of the 90s would bat like over a 100 balls for a 40?
That was more in the 80s.

Still, in the 90s there were some top batsmen who struck in the 60s.

T20 is partially to blame but most of it comes down to modern bats, the lack of quality bowlers, the two new balls and batsman friendly field regulations.
 
They should implement a new and clean ball after every over in Limited over cricket.

In baseball the pitcher gets a clean and fresh ball before each pitch.

Baseball is a batsman's game lol

They should call it basebat or rounders or something lolll
 

stephen

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
They should implement a new and clean ball after every over in Limited over cricket.

In baseball the pitcher gets a clean and fresh ball before each pitch.

Baseball is a batsman's game lol

They should call it basebat or rounders or something lolll
It's significantly harder to hit a baseball than a cricket ball. The seam of a baseball provides a misbehaving ball without the ball being damaged.
 

Test_Fan_Only

First Class Debutant
He has had his issues, failed when given his chance at test level but his form in the last Sheffield Shield season was very good. It is a pity he missed a lot of the season due to injury. At 27 he still has time to get back in the test side.

I say he is neither of proposed descriptions of him.
 

Starfighter

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
He was not good enough when they picked him and he was only picked over a better candidate (Patterson) because Lehmann wanted a batsman who could score quickly and play that ODI style innings in a test, which is exactly what we didn't need.
 

Dan

Hall of Fame Member
Conversely, I'd say he's both at this point.

Massive, massive talent in his early days as a Shield cricketer but never quite kicked on. I think Burgey and I both had him down for 5,000+ Test runs at one point, so, uhh, yeah.

But then when he did get picked, he was picked at a pretty bad time, copped a ****ing good one from Rabada in his first dig (new pink ball, under lights, yorker with a bit of movement - welcome to Test cricket, 'eh?), and couldn't come back from it in his other few innings.

The Victoria move seems to have done him a lot of good. His problem has always been stringing together good seasons, so I'm hoping he has a good Shield next season and starts pressing for a recall in 2021ish. When he's on, he can seriously bat.
 

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