Wastemen etc

[NotMcKenzie]

Lance Cairns certainly wasn't.

 

[smash84]

oh man, that was nasty af

 

[cnerd123]

http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/cricket-chat/67529-wasim-akram-among-his-peers.html
http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/cricket-chat/21919-wasim-akram.html

We even have threads about his batting and commentary
http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/cricket-chat/37798-wasim-akram-s-257-a.html
http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/cricket-chat/11021-wasim-akram.html

Also:
http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/cricket-chat/49234-wastemen-etc.html

 

[jimmy101]

Might be time to scrunch this thread up and throw it in the bin with the rest of the wastemen threads.

Honestly slippy, do you even bother browsing the forum before you start threads?

 

[TheJediBrah]

he is one of only two elite left arm quicks of all time.

ah yes Nathan Bracken

 

[Burgey]

I think the CW consensus is that if Pakistan had decent slip fielders, Wasim would have taken 18,437 test wickets at 0.0076 apiece.

 

[h_hurricane]

Where would you guys rank him up there with the all time great bowlers.

One of the greatest bowlers of all time. Just below the following bowlers and in the same group as Imran, Lillee, Waqar and Holding. I have not included bowlers before 1970s.

Marshall
Hadlee
Mcgrath
Ambrose
Steyn
Garner
Donald

 

[fredfertang]

He wasn’t as good as Waqar

 

[Burgey]

It's interesting how your perception is shaded by whatever sample size you see, isn't it? We didn't really see a great deal of peak Waqar here, so I tend to rate Wasim higher despite Waqar's insane peak. First I recall seeing either of them was in 89/90 and Wasim had a huge tour. Think he made a big ton in Adelaide and bowled some crazy fast spells. Waqar was a bit younger I think, and hadn't reached his peak, and I think he was a bit busted when he next bowled here and wasn't the player he had been pre-injury.

 

[kingkallis]

Marshall
McGrath
Steyn
Hadlee
Wasim

Donald
Lillee
Imran
Ambrose
Waqar

 

[fruitycreeper]

the problem is he wasnntvery gd against quite a lot of teams and wouldnt have got in a team like aus

 

[h_hurricane]

He wasn’t as good as Waqar

The period where Wasim was not as good as Waqar is evened out by the period where Waqar was not as good as Wasim. I would put both of them somewhere close to each other.

 

[smash84]

the problem is he wasnntvery gd against quite a lot of teams and wouldnt have got in a team like aus

Why? Do you think he is worse than Gillespie, McDermott, Damien Fleming etc?

 

[Slifer]

the problem is he wasnntvery gd against quite a lot of teams and wouldnt have got in a team like aus

??? Outside of McGrath Australia have not produced a better fast bowler in the last 35 years or so.

 

[Borges]

??? Outside of McGrath Australia have not produced a better fast bowler in the last 35 years or so.

What about Benjamin William Hilfenhaus?

 

[trundler]

What about Benjamin William Hilfenhaus?

The Australian Miyagis amirite

 

[Red]

the problem is he wasnntvery gd against quite a lot of teams and wouldnt have got in a team like aus

Probably would have snuck him in, although Bichel was slightly better, but he was also a better 12th man

 

[smash84]

Probably would have snuck him in, although Bichel was slightly better, but he was also a better 12th man

What? Bichel better than wasim?

 

[Burgey]

Clearly. But such was Australia's dominance that Bichel couldn't keep a regular spot.

 

[TheJediBrah]

If Bichel played for any other country he'd have batted 3, made 10,000 Test runs @ 55 and taken 984 wickets @ 13

far superior to Wasim's Test stats. Can't argue with maths. Another emphatic win for Australian Miyagis