Adorable Asshole
International Regular
Garner the better bat but who's the better bowler?
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Wasim Akram vs Joel Garner
- Thread starter Adorable Asshole
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Adorable Asshole
International Regular
What's your pace top 10?
BazBall21
International Captain
1) Marshall
2) McGrath
3) Hadlee
7) Imran
8) Akram
9) Trueman
10) Lindwall
Always preferred Ambrose to Steyn because of his record against the best team of his era and Steyn's hit and miss element but feel increasingly unsure now. Ambrose is some way better in Australia and England but Steyn is more proven in Australia/England than Ambrose is in Asia.
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Adorable Asshole
International Regular
Who's 6th?
BazBall21
International Captain
Dennis. Think he's awesome personally. I'm always tempted to put him higher.
Adorable Asshole
International Regular
If you think Ambrose is unproven in Asia then Lillee is even more unproven.
BazBall21
International Captain
Exactly. Asia is Lillee's major problem. Ambrose isn't any more proven on classically unhelpful Asian decks as it's very likely the pitches for the 1990 series were a lot kinder than the ones Lillee got which were brutal.
kyear2
International Coach
Top 3 exactly the same, I also find it impossible to separate Steyn and Ambrose so tied for 4th.
6 - 8 for me is Imran, Donald, Garner in no particular order.
So Garner for me over Wasim.
BazBall21
International Captain
Really love Donald. Read the other day he averaged 23 in high-scoring games. He was unreal. Feel guilty leaving him out.
Adorable Asshole
International Regular
Hmm source?
Adorable Asshole
International Regular
Need more votes
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Hoggard.
Adorable Asshole
International Regular
From now on we all pretend it's Hoggard when someone mentions Lillee and vics versa.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Garner never got the rep to match with Akram.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Wasim clearly better but again, feel Garner deserves the pity vote to make it closer.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
I group it this way and the orders can change in each tier.
Tier 1 - best overall records
Marshall
McGrath
Hadlee
Tier 2 - Well-rounded records
Imran
Steyn
Ambrose
Tier 3 - Seen as best of their times but lacking in overall record
Lillee
Trueman
Wasim
Then Donald rounds off the 10 top as the fast bowler with over 300 wickets with a top tier record, just not the rep as the others. Cummins will take his place by his career end likely.
Slifer
International Captain
The above is outstanding actually. We'll done
h_hurricane
International Vice-Captain
If it was batting, Garner would have been the run away winner.