Was WI ATG team overhyped?

[subshakerz]

Why is every single ****ing thread either set up to, or ends up discussing how great India is in India?

Even if every thread is now about India and how historically great they are, why are the scenarios always in India. It's like morning else is important, no where else matters.

Come on....

The '83 batting lineup was not only not poor, it's better than most of the batting lineups today. Make it make sense.

Oh no, if you point this out this love affair of certain posters with home dominance to the detriment of all other players and teams, you must be a biased India hater.

But seriously, dismissing Bradman and the WI pace quartet? Like, seriously? (Cue posters coming in and saying 'we didn't say that!)

 

[Sunil1z]

So the 2 posters who fap most on pace bowling supremacy are getting annoyed that we are discussing spin bowling in this thread
Maybe you shouldn’t have made assertions earlier than you can win anywhere without needing a spinner . So , I wouldn’t have started this thread .

 

[TheJediBrah]

Starting to look more and more like a facebook comments section every day

 

[subshakerz]

So the 2 posters who fap most on pace bowling supremacy are getting annoyed that we are discussing spin bowling in this thread
Maybe you shouldn’t have made assertions earlier than you can win anywhere without needing a spinner . So , I wouldn’t have started this thread .

Spin bowling is not even the thread topic. You just derailed your own thread to make it about spin to crap on WI.

 

[subshakerz]

Starting to look more and more like a facebook comments section every day

I'm sorry man, I am trying not to talk about Ashwin/Jadeja this time.

 

[Socerer 01]

I'm sorry man, I am trying not to talk about Ashwin/Jadeja this time.

“im not going to talk about the colour green”

proceeds to talk about how visually appealing the grass and leaves out there are

 

[TheJediBrah]

I'm sorry man, I am trying not to talk about Ashwin/Jadeja this time.

It's not just you. You're a symptom, not the cause

 

[Socerer 01]

Oh no, if you point this out this love affair of certain posters with home dominance to the detriment of all other players and teams, you must be a biased India hater.

But seriously, dismissing Bradman and the WI pace quartet? Like, seriously? (Cue posters coming in and saying 'we didn't say that!)

how to strawman 101

 

[number11]

On topic, WI from mid 70s to mid 90s were tremendous. Towards the end of that period they slipped relative to their own peak but remained superb.

Under Lloyd, it is the greatest side ever seen.

 

[Archer6K]

Bowled out for 25 by Ireland

 

[Socerer 01]

Bowled out for 25 by Ireland

Ireland robbed of test status for decades

 

[Slifer]

This is true. They have friggin Bradman. It's like the game is already rigged against you. And on top of that there's Gilchrist as well to further add misery on the opposition.

Yes!! Gilchrist makes Australia almost unfair as if Bradman wasn't freaking enough!!!

 

[number11]

Yes!! Gilchrist makes Australia almost unfair as if Bradman wasn't freaking enough!!!

He is the 3rd greatest cricketer ever after Sobers and Bradman. The 3rd absolute lock in an ATG Test XI.

 

[subshakerz]

Yes!! Gilchrist makes Australia almost unfair as if Bradman wasn't freaking enough!!!

Their argument is that Ashwin and Jadeja > Bradman advantage.

 

[Sunil1z]

It's not just you. You're a symptom, not the cause

Why don’t you man up and say the exact problem? You don’t find problem with his posting style?
When Patience and accuracy + Gut , slifer and me had agreed that in case a series is played in IND , it would be extremely close guy comes and says that India has no chance against AUS /WI . You don’t find Problem in the way he frames his arguments?

 

[Sunil1z]

Their argument is that Ashwin and Jadeja > Bradman advantage.

Once again bringing Ashwin and Jadeja when you yourself said , you didn’t want to discuss the topic

 

[Socerer 01]

Why don’t you man up and say the exact problem? You don’t find problem with his posting style?
When Patience and accuracy + Gut , slifer and me had agreed that in case a series is played in IND , it would be extremely close guy comes and says that India has no chance against AUS /WI . You don’t find Problem in the way he frames his arguments?

this isnt the 1st time TJB has popped in and taken a driveby shot at whoever is opposing subs under the guise of neutrality, deep down i think he wants the drama to go on

 

[Slifer]

Highly disagree

WI can’t field better pace attack than that
SA can field better pace attack by replacing Boje with Steyn but I don’t think Steyn would have outperformed Boje in that series ( Boje averaged 14 )
AUS can replace Kasprowich with other ATG pacer like Davidson

Whereas IND will field 3 bowlers ( Bumrah + Jadeja + Ashwin ) which are huge improvement over those attacks .

WI main bowlers in the 83 series were Marshall and Holding. Roberts missed half the tests and was at the end of his career and Garner missed that tour altogether. Winston Davis and Wayne Daniel played a few tests. So yeah, WI attack could be improved with the addition of at least Walsh at the very least, instead of Davis.

 

[Socerer 01]

Their argument is that Ashwin and Jadeja > Bradman advantage.

who is “they” and where is “their” statement stating that

or is it as made up as your claims of people here being dismissive of Bradman and the pace quartet?

 

[Socerer 01]

WI main bowlers in the 83 series were Marshall and Holding. Roberts missed half the tests and was at the end of his career and Garner missed that tour altogether. Winston Davis and Wayne Daniel played a few tests. So yeah, WI attack could be improved with the addition of at least Walsh at the very least, instead of Davis.

amazing how discussions can actually progress with posters that want good discussion like this rather than trying to drive agendas and im not just talking about subs here