I atleast have several straws but you seem to have just one..Lee played them in 2 2 test series, one where he did well/ok, the other where he did poor. Using that as a gauge is disingenuous.
Vaas himself has had as many bad tests against them, he just played them enough to right his record. In fact, even his record against Zimbabwe is not all too flash, especially at home. And he played them 15 times.
Clutch another straw. You're good at it.
It was a reply to your post - appreciate, if you will, that that is slightly different to "directed at you".
There were actually wild fluctuations from both - Lee averaged 40+ for most of his career, with a couple of periods of averaging 20 or less. Vaas regularly went from averaging under 20 in one series to averaging 100+ in the next.
The ball can swing quite a bit anywhere, if it's in the right condition, and the bowler has the requisite skill.
As I've said before - well done Amateur Psychologist Par Excellence. I know I was told-off for saying it before, but let's put this bluntly: you don't have the foggiest idea what goes on in my mind and never will. I know better than you what the roots of my thoughts are, and any comment by you on the roots of my thoughts will be lacking in credibility.
The Zimbabwean wickets of 1994/95-2001 were no more cheap than, for instance, the WIndian wickets Lee took in 2008.
Thats a conclusion someone who dislikes Lee could come to if they were desperate.
I have not seen you putting that forward when the argument suits you.
Man to man WI of 2008 < ZIM of late 90s
Are we talking about the Strike affected WI?
WI in 2008 against NZ
An average of 31.66 for the greatest bowler of all time after Warne, Lillee and mcgrath against the "weakest team of all time" is "well/ok".Lee played them in 2 2 test series, one where he did well/ok, the other where he did poor. Using that as a gauge is disingenuous.
Vaas himself has had as many bad tests against them, he just played them enough to right his record. In fact, even his record against Zimbabwe is not all too flash, especially at home. And he played them 15 times.
Clutch another straw. You're good at it.
Wrong, I didn't say Lee has a much superior away record than Vaas - although I think concluding as such is hardly biased. What I said is that comparative to each other's home and away records Lee was more consistent. Meaning he took on foreign conditions much better than Vaas who has a mediocre SR for an opening bowler.
You got it wrong, compared the averages, I showed you the SRs and you're still crying about it. Vaas beats him by 1 on average and loses out by 13 on SR..."nothing else"
No, I only discount minnows when the sample is small regardless if they did well or not; or if they've played the minnows a lot and have inflated their record by it. I don't think a player of Lee's caliber is likely to fail against one of the worst test sides of all time had he played them enough. If a player has played them plenty of times and has failed, then that's his bad.An average of 31.66 for the greatest bowler of all time after Warne, Lillee and mcgrath against the "weakest team of all time" is "well/ok".
6 tests are not enough to show that Lee failed miserably against the "2 weakest sides of his team" yet 8 tests are enough to show that KP dominated Mcgrath/Warne
They're 2 different teams. KP played one pair of bowlers 8 times. It's a much better sample.6 tests are not enough to show that Lee failed miserably against the "2 weakest sides of his team" yet 8 tests are enough to show that KP dominated Mcgrath/Warne
It is ok Ikki.Everyone understands the way you rate players now.
Of course!!!!!
