Unpopular Cricket Opinions

[sayon basak]

I never saw Ian Botham being overrated unlike Flintoff

What do you mean? If you never saw Ian Botham getting overrated, then why did you call him overrated?

And Flintoff is one of the most overrated cricketers of all time.

 

[Starfighter]

Competition as well as injuries. Gillespie was injured for most of Fleming's career too, if not Fleming might have played a lot less even. Brett Lee coming along and Gillespie being more available post-2000 pretty much finished him.

I doubt it. He'd have played over the likes of Kasprowicz and Bichel. For hypothetical fitness, as you've applied to Gillespie, if you did the same for Fleming, he probably goes on the 97 Ashes tour instead of Kasprowicz. Instead he didn't play a single test between early 95 and 98.

 

[TheJediBrah]

I doubt it. He'd have played over the likes of Kasprowicz and Bichel. For hypothetical fitness, as you've applied to Gillespie, if you did the same for Fleming, he probably goes on the 97 Ashes tour instead of Kasprowicz. Instead he didn't play a single test between early 95 and 98.

You're probably right. From memory Fleming wouldn't have been the worst seam bowler in the side in most of the games he played around 1998 and 1999. There would have usually been a 3rd seamer wo'd be left out before he was. Still reckon the eruption of young Brett Lee on the scene and Gillespie's extended return around 2000-01 would have just about spelled the end of his career regardless of injuries though.

 

[Kirkut]

India no longer produces world class players of spin and are as circumspect as any other SENA batsmen.

 

[we're yorkshire]

Ian Botham is overrated

He ranks higher than Malcolm Marshall on the all time bowling rankings and reached number 3 in the world as a batsman.
He didn't have the prolonged brilliance of some of the others, but his early years were sublime.

 

[capt_Luffy]

He ranks higher than Malcolm Marshall on the all time bowling rankings and reached number 3 in the world as a batsman.
He didn't have the prolonged brilliance of some of the others, but his early years were sublime.

ICC Rankings sucks though

 

[we're yorkshire]

Kohli not being banned for the 5th test benefits Australia.

 

[govinda indian fan]

Kohli not being banned for the 5th test benefits Australia.

Unfortunately yes. Hope would be last time i see **** play for india in whites

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Ian Botham is overrated

Agree

 

[kevinw]

Agree

More like he had five years of greatness, about ten of ordinariness.

 

[Coronis]

I believe in wider cricketing circles he’s probably overrated. Not so much on here

 

[Starfighter]

You're probably right. From memory Fleming wouldn't have been the worst seam bowler in the side in most of the games he played around 1998 and 1999. There would have usually been a 3rd seamer wo'd be left out before he was. Still reckon the eruption of young Brett Lee on the scene and Gillespie's extended return around 2000-01 would have just about spelled the end of his career regardless of injuries though.

There were enough tests where someone was injured in that period that you could add a few more tests on for a theoretically fit Fleming, or where there was an extra spot available. Like he could have played Bichel's three tests in the 02/03 Ahses.

Though I wouldn't have seen him displacing Bichel on the 03 tour of the West Indies, where Bichel was playing as an allrounder. One of our odder team compositions that one.

 

[Fanboy375]

More like he had five years of greatness, about ten of ordinariness.

Among bowlers before age 25 Botham had the best bowling ave which was 20.2.Second best was Waqar Younis with 21.4.