*Unofficial* New Zealand Black Caps Thread

[HeathDavisSpeed]

Except Parore because that Chemical Brothers song is a banger

And O Fortuna isn’t???!!!?

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Anyway it would be cool if someone walked out to like the entirety of The Dead Flag Blues or something and then promptly got bowled first ball.

 

[Days of Grace]

Was my initial thinking.

Jimmy Neesham in some ways as well, if his actually having a personality counts him as a maverick.

One thing I was greatly disappointed in last nights awards was Daryl Mitchell's interview, when asked any goals for the future and he gave the good natured "just focusing on the next thing" anwer. Love Daz but fmd would love if he said something like "maiden double hundy. T20I hundred. beating the saffers and aussies. winning the WC" like come on, is this just front facing PR training or does the team really not have any goals to try and knock off?

I think you answered your question about Neesham with your next paragraph.

I sometimes meet another Kiwi in a British pub in Tokyo and we often make fun of the All Blacks or rugby players in general for having no personality, lower intellects and much less humor compared to the average cricketer.

Maybe our cricketers are becoming All Blacks.

 

[Nintendo]

Can somoene explain to me how despite half of the main NZ team playing in the IPL while the national team is still playing AND the A-team is playing cricket all at the same time josh clarkson doesn't manage to get a game anywhere despite being in just about career best form? 337 runs @56 and a sr of 80 in the PS and 258 runs @37 and a sr of 165 in the super smash this year.

EDIT: Picking clarkson sounds like a better idea then shoehorning rachin into the #7 spot in the ODI team when he's a top order bat worst case.....

 

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Can somoene explain to me how despite half of the main NZ team playing in the IPL while the national team is still playing AND the A-team is playing cricket all at the same time josh clarkson doesn't manage to get a game anywhere despite being in just about career best form? 337 runs @56 and a sr of 80 in the PS and 258 runs @37 and a sr of 165 in the super smash this year.

The T20 squad hasn't been named yet, so there's still a small chance. I really hope he gets an opportunity there.

 

[Nintendo]

The T20 squad hasn't been named yet, so there's still a small chance. I really hope he gets an opportunity there.

Good point, didn't realize the t20 squad hadn't been named yet.

 

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Good point, didn't realize the t20 squad hadn't been named yet.

Realistically though, even if he's picked, he'll likely be somewhere well down the order, not get a bat and then get dropped because he "didn't quite grab his opportunity with both hands" or something.

 

[The Hutt Rec]

I was so sure McMillan had Return of the Mack. Now I'm doubting so many of my childhood memories.

They definitely changed over the years, because I remember Flem entered an indie rock phase with Bohemian Like You by the Dandy Warhols.

My all-time favourite was definitely Bryan Young with Smooth Operator.

 

[NZTailender]

I think you answered your question about Neesham with your next paragraph.

I sometimes meet another Kiwi in a British pub in Tokyo and we often make fun of the All Blacks or rugby players in general for having no personality, lower intellects and much less humor compared to the average cricketer.

Maybe our cricketers are becoming All Blacks.

McCullum struck me as "what if all black, but cricketer"

 

[TheBrand]

Loving young Vettori repping People of the Sun - RATM. Absolute tune.

 

[Moss]

Loving young Vettori repping People of the Sun - RATM. Absolute tune.

Parore Nash and Vettori making up for the top order shortcomings, how on-brand..

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

McCullum had Better Man, that's where my hatred started I think.

 

[Days of Grace]

McCullum had Better Man, that's where my hatred started I think.

To be fair, I distinctly remember being at Eden Park for an ODI against Australia in 2000 and Steve Waugh walking out to Better Man.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

Mark Richardson seems to be a radical conservative, so could potentially fit in both teams - but I think his contrarian nature would see him thrive most in the maverick team.

Yeah he's politically conservative and has found a niche doing that but he's obviously never been "one of the boys". I suspect many Steadist types are probably institutional centre/leftists who know how to brainlessly parrot the "right" opinons (looking at Sumo).

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Yeah he's politically conservative and has found a niche doing that but he's obviously never been "one of the boys".

Yeah, I couldn't imagine many of the others having races against the slowest member of the opposing team.

 

[jcas0167]

I was so sure McMillan had Return of the Mack. Now I'm doubting so many of my childhood memories.

McMillan definitely came out to Return of the Mack for cricket max games circa 1997. That year Chris Cairns came out to ACDC's Back in Black. Craig Spearman had Macho Man by Village People. Phil Tufnell came out to Cigarettes & Alcohol by Oasis.

My favourite was Chris Harris coming out to Eye of the Tiger against South Africa in an ODI in 1999 when we were getting caned.

 

[SteveNZ]

Yeah he's politically conservative and has found a niche doing that but he's obviously never been "one of the boys". I suspect many Steadist types are probably institutional centre/leftists who know how to brainlessly parrot the "right" opinons (looking at Sumo).

I know we've done this so many times but Sumo is insufferable. I don't like to be unkind about people as a rule, but he was an NZRU patsy when he worked at SKY, then all of a sudden became hotly critical of them when he went to Spark. Then he went all gooey over our women's cricket side in particular, even when they were raging from one poor performance to the other at World Cups. Absolute cheerleader, limited knowledge of the game, irksome 'lad' speak at the worst times, he just really grinds me. I want my commentators to be critical when they need to be, insightful as a rule + shut up and let the pictures do the talking (as Richie Benaud used to insist)...but that ain't him.

 

[SteveNZ]

Jesse Ryder, surely.

I dunno if he was a maverick? I don't think he knowingly thumbed his nose to authorities like a Parore, a Nash etc. He just drunk a lot of piss and it's hard to fall in line when you have a headache and the dries the next day.

Mavericks...Rob Nicol was a beatnik, dunno if that makes him a maverick (as was Chris Martin initially until he 'conformed').

 

[DougieRydal]

I know we've done this so many times but Sumo is insufferable. I don't like to be unkind about people as a rule, but he was an NZRU patsy when he worked at SKY, then all of a sudden became hotly critical of them when he went to Spark. Then he went all gooey over our women's cricket side in particular, even when they were raging from one poor performance to the other at World Cups. Absolute cheerleader, limited knowledge of the game, irksome 'lad' speak at the worst times, he just really grinds me. I want my commentators to be critical when they need to be, insightful as a rule + shut up and let the pictures do the talking (as Richie Benaud used to insist)...but that ain't him.

100% on this, here's an example of an exchange I had with him on Twitter

 

[Immenso]

Hmmmm

Personally, Not sure you guys are on the right track. I reckon/heard/read? (not sure, memory fuzzy) he was getting frozen out by NZRU, frustrated at Sky - because he wasn't towing the NZRU line (enough), so left, or saw the tea leaves and left.

I don't know this, just how I was reading it.

Not that I was following any of that particularly closely anymore.

In particular lack of independence of the competitions from Sanzaar / NZRU was his hill to die on, IIRC.