Victor Ian
International Coach
Didn't NZ just tour England? Why do they get to lay the boot in 2 years running?
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*Unofficial* New Zealand Black Caps Thread
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Last time was NZ's practice tour for the WTC, this time it's actual WTC points at stake. Blame scheduling by the boards if anything.
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Well it wasn't meant as practice for the WTC. England wanted to recoup some financial losses from covid so wanted to play extra tests. NZ took up the offer.
Yeah tbf I was being a bit simplistic. I guess England just wanted to get revenge as soon as possible this time round.
Victor Ian
International Coach
I'm not blaming anyone. I'm just jealous Australia don't get to kick England twice in a row while they are in a slump.
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
It also looks like England is coming to NZ for 2 non-WTC tests in Feb/March 2023.
To be fair England can't make the Ashes that common, **** board scheduling aside. They have to 'care' about playing non Pig 3 teams.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Dion Ebrahim was a Zim opener?
Immenso
International Vice-Captain
Henry Nicholls in doubt for Black Caps test tour of England due to calf injury
Key middle order batter Henry Nicholls is battling a calf injury ahead of this weekend's departure for what shapes as a vital test series.
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@honestbharani Yep. He came to Taranaki and was player-coach for Hawera for years in his prime. Never got a look in for CD which was odd but I guess he didn't quite score the runs.
edit - just checked and he did play for Taranaki. Tbf CD was stacked with batsmen during his time.
edit - just checked and he did play for Taranaki. Tbf CD was stacked with batsmen during his time.
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Yes. He is now coaching the Otago men's side. His Kiwi wife has played for the White Ferns and scored a lot of runs in domestic one dayers last season, but missed the World Cup squad.
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Phillips or Bruce if Nicholls can't tour? (hope he can).
I guess Mitchell to bat 5 in the tests if Nicholls not there. Otherwise Ravinda/Rutherford to open and Young at 5.
I guess Mitchell to bat 5 in the tests if Nicholls not there. Otherwise Ravinda/Rutherford to open and Young at 5.
HeathDavisSpeed
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Probably just means they’ll elevate Bracewell!
Kippax
Cricketer Of The Year
As far as Macewell pushing his own career's barrow goes, I can understand his point of view that he'll be damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. The raw and crappy contracted squad Pocknall has been assembling for him in the last couple of years should've really been captained by someone with lots of lefty cred like Neesham, rather than a member of the bolshy and sometimes indelicate Bracewell family.
If Macewell had bowled Ravindra at every opportunity and it didn't pan out so well, and it bled through into lots of low scores for him at the top of the order, CW would probably be the first to opine that Macewell just wasn't easing all his juniors into their pro careers gently enough.
If Macewell had bowled Ravindra at every opportunity and it didn't pan out so well, and it bled through into lots of low scores for him at the top of the order, CW would probably be the first to opine that Macewell just wasn't easing all his juniors into their pro careers gently enough.
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Sounds like he's been coaching Otago in more recent times, and he's married to the Otago Sparks and former White Ferns bowler Kate Ebrahim (formerly Broadmore).
nzfan
International Vice-Captain
Nicholls unavailability if at all is a major concern. That said an opportunity for someone else. I don't mind Bracewell at 5 or 6. I'd rather they play him vs England and figure where he's at international level than play him vs associates and come to conclusion either way. There's plenty of cricket coming up and with covid around better use all options possible. Despite couple of low scores vs Dutch I think Macewell can certainly bat particularly coming in at 6 and smashing it in white ball cricket. Whether he can in red ball is debatable but you never know.
If he goes well great otherwise at least we'll know that's a failed experiment. To me it's quite clear these days the teams would rather back a player who has good T20 numbers than a grafter in long format. Good number of players are progressing from T20 to red ball and lot less the other way around. Younger players need to take notice and shun the old attitude of trying to make a career through red ball cricket. In any case we play like 4-6 test matches in a year and opportunities are far less in our test side to get in. A month long great form in T20 live on TV makes selectors/people sit up and notice than the hard grind at red ball cricket. If you can land an opportunity and just go for it you have probably nothing to lose.
If he goes well great otherwise at least we'll know that's a failed experiment. To me it's quite clear these days the teams would rather back a player who has good T20 numbers than a grafter in long format. Good number of players are progressing from T20 to red ball and lot less the other way around. Younger players need to take notice and shun the old attitude of trying to make a career through red ball cricket. In any case we play like 4-6 test matches in a year and opportunities are far less in our test side to get in. A month long great form in T20 live on TV makes selectors/people sit up and notice than the hard grind at red ball cricket. If you can land an opportunity and just go for it you have probably nothing to lose.
nzfan
International Vice-Captain
Dion has been around for a long time in NZ. As pointed out above started at NP, was a head/coach player for NP Boys. Then a gig for Canterbury as assistant coach and recently appointed as head coach for Otago since Rob Walter moved to CD. The man has the international experience, quite young as well and generally thought about as a fantastic bloke. Good level headed person to have as one of the coaches.
thundaboult
International Debutant
Nicholls is watling level boring but by god he is crucial to that middle order. Would be a big loss.
nzfan
International Vice-Captain
It's only a grade 1 tear for Nicholls, he should be all right for the first test. He will miss the warm up games. In case he misses the first test, I'd rather they go for Darryl Michell or Bracewell as a replacement for Nicholls than Rutherford or Ravindra. I just can't come to grips with players playing at a completely different position although it does happen regularly for debutants or starters. Or they should be insisting Firebirds play Ravindra in the middle or late order in domestic cricket if that is where they look to slot him in test cricket.
I see Stead mentioning the warm up games are not actually first class games. That sucks... takes out all the seriousness out of the game. I don't know why they do that. We will see 15 players fronting up for the warm up games from both sides and it will not necessarily help batters in particular. Last time around in UK I remember Young and Blundell were out like 2-3 times in a day but still got to carry on batting. Couple of our guys played for the opponents as well I think. I won't be watching the warm ups that's for sure.
I see Stead mentioning the warm up games are not actually first class games. That sucks... takes out all the seriousness out of the game. I don't know why they do that. We will see 15 players fronting up for the warm up games from both sides and it will not necessarily help batters in particular. Last time around in UK I remember Young and Blundell were out like 2-3 times in a day but still got to carry on batting. Couple of our guys played for the opponents as well I think. I won't be watching the warm ups that's for sure.