Potentially. Colin Cowdrey once retired hurt and came back at 9 down with a broken arm for two balls at the non strikers end. That gave him a Not Out instead of a completed innings and made his average higher than it would have been.The real question is do retired hurts inflate batting averages?
"And once again", you're just giving all the weight to batting position. Some of the best players batted 4 or 5, and of course will have more not outs than your openers. Doesn't make them less valuable.
Yeah but if memory serves me correctly, he was only part of ONE losing series ie away to India in 1979ish. Don't think he toured NZ in 1980.
He would have been not out (retired - not out) if he stayed in the hut anyway though.Potentially. Colin Cowdrey once retired hurt and came back at 9 down with a broken arm for two balls at the non strikers end. That gave him a Not Out instead of a completed innings and made his average higher than it would have been.
Then you basically disagree with this entire methodology. Because you could say the same thing when I chose to consider only the best 12-year period for the batsmen.
I am not arbitrarily cutting off the initial bad years for some players. It is done systematically. It is cut off only when the numbers say so.
I did not say it does.
Must have been a lot of draws for the WI back then
Which is why some of us like what Venky is trying to achieve with his method.
Oh yes absolutely. I think the end rankings here will probably be a less accurate ranking of player quality than if you just ranked them by career batting average (if it's even much different). But it's still an interesting exercise.
Just for clarification for this particular example, Bradman tore a rib muscle (or maybe just pulled it, conflicting sources).
A simple, general ranking system should give Hussey no chance for the reasons you mention. Pretty much ever team has a player or 3 pushed in too early because they are talented with the understanding that they will improve as they go. Almost nobody is kept out when they have the talent a-la-hussey by ridiculous batting lineups.
Retired Hurt counts as a completed innings for stats. It doesn’t go in the Not Out column.
That's a failure of his personal fitness
Actually I'm pretty sure it counts as a not out
This exactly it. I think for some it is not clear as to why the first 2 years are excluded for some players. Younis didn't have the first 4 years included, for Inzi it's the first 2, for Mahela it's the first 2 and so on. Because the initial years were bad. Now how would it be a fair comparison if we included the initial 2 bad years for all the current players?
Yeah. Back then, when it rained or time was otherwise lost, it was not made up. Also, there was no overrate mandate.
