sayon basak
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Thanks to @capt_Luffy for this poll suggestion. So, discuss who are the most underrated and who are the most overrated players in CricketWeb.
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The most underrated and overrated players in CricketWeb
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capt_Luffy
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I will start with:
Most underrated batsman in CW: Charlie MaCartney
Most overrated batsman in CW: Graeme Smith
Most underrated batsman in CW: Charlie MaCartney
Most overrated batsman in CW: Graeme Smith
RossTaylorsBox
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Shane Watson for both.
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If you'd really like to imagine a majority opinion and then complain about it without explaining yourself here are half a dozen existing threads
Overrated/Underrated
this isn't the same as that mr_mister thread where it's exclusive to naming cricketers... it's everything and anything overrated: -pace bowling -playing in the v -the slope at lord's -batsmen playing and missing outside the off stump -gully underrated: -spin bowling -reverse sweeps -two...
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Overrated by CW XI and Underrated by CW XI
Some of these are good, just overrated. Some are real spuds Overrated XI Sunil Gavaskar Geoff Boycott Younis Khan Everton Weekes Ken Barrington Keith Miller Shakib al Hasan BJ Watling Joel Garner Dennis Lillee Bill O'Reilly Underrated XI Graham Gooch Virender Sehwag Ricky Pointing Javed...
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Most overrated cricketer
Wally Hammond imo. He batted in the most batting friendly era and still was miles below the best bat of his time. Would not be a top 5 bat in this era. Who is the most overrated in your opinion?
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We've got a recently created, active thread for most overrated so figure I'd start the opposite. I'll start with: Vernon Philander Was part of a new ball partnership with Steyn, that led South Africa to their most successful period in Test cricket history ( 2012-16 ) as the number 1 team...
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Most Underrated Cricketers in Cricket Chat
Two South Africans come to mind right away - Mike Procter from old days and Shaun Pollock from modern times. Anyone else you have observed?
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sayon basak
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I realized I myself underrated Charlie Macartney. He was one of the best batsman if his time, played in some of the low scoring tests. Also had a much better last 5 year stretch compared to fairly poor starting 4 years.
sayon basak
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Only two of them are about underrated or overrated players in CricketWeb, one of them being 8 years ago.
capt_Luffy
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Also of note, MaCartney begun his career as a lower order bowling all-rounder like Smith and Jayasuriya. When his batting really started to improve and he began to bat at top of the order, WWI rolled out. And to top it off, he had PTSD post War.
Don't know enough about cricketweb, so just done my own general list.
Most underrated batsman: Mushfiqur Rahim. He never gets any kind of mention on a global stage and even when talking about Bangladeshi players he is behind Shakib and Tamim.
As a keeper with 50+ Tests he averages 37 which is very respectable. As a specialist batsman he averages 43. If you factor in how young he debuted and only look at his batting since his mid 20s (last 12 years) he's been averaging mid 40s
Most underrated bowler: Morne Morkel. Has an incredible peer review. Nearly always in the top 2 or 3 when batsmen from his era are asked who was the most difficult bowler to face. He's a huge reason why Steyn did so well.
Most overrated batsman: Mahela Jayawardene. He might not be as overrated now, but for most of his and Sangas career he was talked up way way more. Still an awesome player, but didn't deserve to get the plaudits he did back in the day over Sanga.
Most overrated bowler: Alzarri Joseph. Just look at his stats. No idea why he still gets picked and is even somewhat considered the spearhead now.
Most underrated batsman: Mushfiqur Rahim. He never gets any kind of mention on a global stage and even when talking about Bangladeshi players he is behind Shakib and Tamim.
As a keeper with 50+ Tests he averages 37 which is very respectable. As a specialist batsman he averages 43. If you factor in how young he debuted and only look at his batting since his mid 20s (last 12 years) he's been averaging mid 40s
Most underrated bowler: Morne Morkel. Has an incredible peer review. Nearly always in the top 2 or 3 when batsmen from his era are asked who was the most difficult bowler to face. He's a huge reason why Steyn did so well.
Most overrated batsman: Mahela Jayawardene. He might not be as overrated now, but for most of his and Sangas career he was talked up way way more. Still an awesome player, but didn't deserve to get the plaudits he did back in the day over Sanga.
Most overrated bowler: Alzarri Joseph. Just look at his stats. No idea why he still gets picked and is even somewhat considered the spearhead now.
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Don't agree with Morkel. I think he was massively overrated tbh.
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Jayawardena isn't overrated at all on CW. He gets clubbed with Hussey and Yousuf usually and occasionally you get disrespectful comparisons to guys like M Waugh. Morkel was gun but there's really so much to write about a third seamer who mostly did the enforcer role. Can't expect people to be sucking off every good player ever all the time. And people only ever talk about Joseph to bring up his terrible stats and how wayward he is.
Overrated
Keith Miller
Sunil Gavaskar
Bert Sutcliffe
Ravindra Jadeja
Geoffrey Boycott
Ken Barrington
Garry Sobers
Steve Smith
Jacques Kallis
Underrated:
Ricky Ponting
Ben Stokes
Virat Kohli
Clive Lloyd
Gordon Greenidge
R Ashwin
Ian Botham
Javed Miandad
Don Bradman
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Overrated:
Players from the 60s / Early 70s
All Rounders
Players with strong stats but no discernible match winning track record
Underrated:
Modern players and batsman from the 1980s
Strong specialists
Match winners who transcended stats
Bradman
Keith Miller
Sunil Gavaskar
Bert Sutcliffe
Ravindra Jadeja
Geoffrey Boycott
Ken Barrington
Garry Sobers
Steve Smith
Jacques Kallis
Underrated:
Ricky Ponting
Ben Stokes
Virat Kohli
Clive Lloyd
Gordon Greenidge
R Ashwin
Ian Botham
Javed Miandad
Don Bradman
Themes
Overrated:
Players from the 60s / Early 70s
All Rounders
Players with strong stats but no discernible match winning track record
Underrated:
Modern players and batsman from the 1980s
Strong specialists
Match winners who transcended stats
Bradman
ataraxia
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Mostly agree with that, have bolded the exceptions.
capt_Luffy
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Love the "transcends stats" bit. ****ing hilarious.
capt_Luffy
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Is it even possible to overrate Don though?? Actually, now thinking about it, some people saying he is worth 3 ATVGs probably does so.
Also interested when was the last time Bert Sutcliffe was even discussed here?? Problem while discussing ATG NZ team.....
some of us actually watch the game
capt_Luffy
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And some of us actually watch the game and use our brains, and find it hilarious that only great innings are valuable, even if they come like rain in Sahara; over someone doing consistent good.
andyfrankseo
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I this these guys are underrated
Underrated Players:
Underrated Players:
- Kane Williamson: Consistent and reliable but often overshadowed by more aggressive players.
- Ajinkya Rahane: Key performer in tough conditions, yet frequently overlooked.
capt_Luffy
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Williamson ranked ahead of Kohli and Root in the best Test batsman poll. Certainly isn't underrated in CW.
On Rahane, he was too inconsistent.
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