The Mankad

[honestbharani]

I’ve seen tissue paper thicker than your skin over this.

it’s a Mankad. Own it. Imagine being brain dead enough to think if they called it a Zampa it would suddenly never be called into question.

if a captain engages in match fixing then dies in a plane crash, it’s a Hansie. If you cry at a press conference after ball tampering it’s a TPC. If you refuse to move from number four even when your team needs you to owing to injuries while on tour it’s a Tendulkar. If you’re appointed captain after being caught ball tampering it’s a Dravid. If you rub dirt on the ball it’s an Atherton. And if you invent racist undertones to things when there’s none because you have nothing substantive to add while at the same time repetitively calling Pakistani cricketers “uncles” it’s a HB. Love me a hindu nationalist calling everyone else racist. Few things better.

Ah yes. Call someone thin skinned. Then take offence when reality is explained and throw out baseless allegations and slurs and a useless bunch of lies to support non existent logic. Classic Burgey. Love me a living breathing racist trope poster who pretends to vote left online calling anyone anything. Few things better.

 

[Burgey]

The man’s own family wants it maintained mate. They don’t see it as offensive at all. It’s a non event. This is woeful pearl clutching here. It’s baseless

 

[honestbharani]

The fact that Burgey and tbb had to go after me with bigoted personal insults just because I dared to point out, without any aggro towards anyone on the forum, the issues and the complexities of why the name is a problem, without addressing a single point that I actually raised, shows you why it is bad to still call it something that quickly ends up being an association to the subcontinent and India.


I rest my case.

 

[shortpitched713]

The man’s own family wants it maintained mate. They don’t see it as offensive at all. It’s a non event. This is woeful pearl clutching here. It’s baseless

I dunno. I think he's winning this argument purely on the basis of name-dropping Deepti, whom the act of googling put a smile on my face.

At the risk of Davadoing up this conversation, you'd have to provide something of equal or greater value to get my nod on this.

 

[honestbharani]

The man’s own family wants it maintained mate. They don’t see it as offensive at all. It’s a non event. This is woeful pearl clutching here. It’s baseless

It is his grandson. And this is what his son felt. Like I said, try to see reality.

About bloody time, says Rahul Mankad | Cricket News - Times of India

Cricket News: On Wednesday, he had finally won a battle he had fought for long, but Rahul Mankad, son of legendary cricketer Vinoo Mankad, was sadly in no condition

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

 

[the big bambino]

The fact that Burgey and tbb had to go after me with bigoted personal insults just because I dared to point out, without any aggro towards anyone on the forum, the issues and the complexities of why the name is a problem, without addressing a single point that I actually raised, shows you why it is so bad to still call it something that quickly ends up being an association to the subcontinent and India.


I rest my case.

nah mate. You’re just a fraud.

 

[shortpitched713]

On topic, I think the name for doing this act will ultimately end up being water under the bridge, as no one's going to give a **** around the stigma of performing a perfectly legal act which has been given rules clarity, in a couple of year's time if they have any sense.

As far as whether the name will change, maybe if it becomes more common, it won't be seen as such a curiosity that you have to bring up an ancient international cricketer to explain it to kids, but honestly don't think it matters if the name sticks or not.

 

[honestbharani]

nah mate. You’re just a fraud.

Thanks for proving me right again. And I think the son would know how the father felt more than the grandson.

Unfortunate That My Father Name Is Tainted - Rahul Mankad On Ashwin

Ravichandran Ashwin affected Mankading to dismiss Jos Buttler, it has become a headliner in the game of cricket. The players across

cricketaddictor.com

 

[the big bambino]

Thanks for proving me right again.

Unfortunate That My Father Name Is Tainted - Rahul Mankad On Ashwin

Ravichandran Ashwin affected Mankading to dismiss Jos Buttler, it has become a headliner in the game of cricket. The players across

cricketaddictor.com

Well done. You think you're batman and just have to come out on top after every episode. Pathetic.

 

[Xix2565]

I'm not sure why people want to just brush over the history and pretend it's all fine when clearly there are crybabies raging about the act to this day.

 

[Burgey]

I hear he also chucked his doosra.

 

[honestbharani]

I hear he also chucked his doosra.

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Well done. You think you're batman and just have to come out on top after every episode. Pathetic.

 

[Coronis]

It is his grandson. And this is what his son felt. Like I said, try to see reality.

About bloody time, says Rahul Mankad | Cricket News - Times of India

Cricket News: On Wednesday, he had finally won a battle he had fought for long, but Rahul Mankad, son of legendary cricketer Vinoo Mankad, was sadly in no condition

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Try to read the article. He didn’t like that it was considered an unfair dismissal and thus would associate Mankad with cheating etc. Its literally a non-issue now.

 

[honestbharani]

Try to read the article. He didn’t like that it was considered an unfair dismissal and thus would associate Mankad with cheating etc. Its literally a non-issue now.

And you try to read the next one I posted. The point is the association is already there. Its literally the issue now. Coz for ages now, the term has meant what idiots have thought was unfair play and it ends up being fodder for racist and bigoted antagonism online.

And trust me, the point about how bad it can be at age group level is an equally important issue here. Removing the term and just calling it what it is, a run-out, will make things so much simpler and easier.

 

[Sunil1z]

I think there is certain truth to what HB is suggesting. For eg . Aussie female cricketer Megan Schutt liked a tweet “ Indians are horrible people for trying to mankad players”.
It is obvious certain people feel Mankad is cheating.

However HB we should always do things which Aussies don’t like . For eg. Ashwin should mankad Steve Smith atleast once in BG trophy ?

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Of course I did. It is after seeing how it has basically led to bullying of people racially online on SM that I felt it should not be called that. And honestly, it is already a slur, which is the whole point. But I feel it has become enough of an issue that waiting for it to become normal is really not gonna happen.

Eh, on Twitter calling someone a corncob is a slur, but I'd hazard a guess that for the average cricket fan Mankad is just a convenient shorthand for a particular dismissal.

Compromise solution: like the n-word, only Indians get to say Mankad.

 

[Burgey]

Sunilz, do you think some people dislike Mankads because it’s called a Mankad? Like HB, do you think if it was called a Barrington-Smythe then everyone would think it was awesome?

 

[the big bambino]

And you try to read the next one I posted. The point is the association is already there. Its literally the issue now. Coz for ages now, the term has meant what idiots have thought was unfair play and it ends up being fodder for racist and bigoted antagonism online.

And trust me, the point about how bad it can be at age group level is an equally important issue here. Removing the term and just calling it what it is, a run-out, will make things so much simpler and easier.

You brought up his son in the context of racism but that wasn't his issue, you fraud.

 

[Sunil1z]

Sunilz, do you think some people dislike Mankads because it’s called a Mankad? Like HB, do you think if it was called a Barrington-Smythe then everyone would think it was awesome?

I feel since very few cricketers attempt mankad , there is still a large section of Cricket community that associates Mankad with cheating. This forum is extremely fine . But on social media unfortunately many people abuse cricketers who do mankad.

I don’t believe it has anything to do with racism . If Aussie cricketers will do mankad they too will be abused on social media. However since in last 2-3 years , most of the mankad attempt has been made by Indian players , most of the abuse is directed to us .

 

[Burgey]

Yeah I think the traditional sort of protocol around there being a warning well and truly predates it being called a Mankad, so I can see why having your name associated with it might bug you, but the idea the stigma around it is because the first bloke to do it in a test was Indian is a stretch.

He’s probably unlucky he did it here, where things in sport get named after people all the time. Doing a Bradbury is standard lexicon here, for example.

Personally don’t have an issue with it these days. I’m happy enough for the Zampa one to be ruled out of order, but if you’re out of your ground when the ball would normally be delivered, then it’s your own fault and you don’t really deserve any more sympathy than if you over balance and get stumped.