The Fine Line: Would You Walk?

[GotSpin]

Hell no i won't go.

 

[Smudge]

I'd cut off my leg before I walk.

Halves your chance of getting out LBW too.

 

[Son Of Coco]

PLEASE DON'T!

For the love of God please

I'm with you!

You never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever ask Richard:

a) a question,

b) something alluding to 'luck' playing a part in this fair game.

If you do it again (insert name of person concerned here) you deserve to receive a strongly worded letter!

 

[Son Of Coco]

Believing in not walking is a sporting sin as far as I'm concerned - because it's blatant cheating from where I'm standing.
Of course, others feel differently.

Where are you standing?....



In the sheds!?

 

[Son Of Coco]

Why ?

Because he didn't swear an oath on the bible before heading for the crease.

 

[Son Of Coco]

So someone is not morally obliged to turn himself in having pushed someone into a raging river?
I'd say he is.
And I'd say he's committing not only a crime but a moral breach, too.

What's with the comparing of cricketing incidents to offences against another's person these days!?

If you refused to walk AND pushed an opposing player into a raging river then I think youd be morally corrupt.

 

[Son Of Coco]

Haha, good ones.
You think it is against the law for a batsman to walk if he nicks one and there's no appeal?
As far as I know, it's not.
Anyway - many bowlers don't actually appeal, they just run on through - and if the batsman then doesn't walk THEY get into trouble.
How, incidentally, do you differentiate between an "obvious" nick and a "non-obvious" one? Does the Umpire have to give you out if you nick it to third-slip and you stand there?

An inside edge is not that obvious...I had someone given not out off a massive one this year.

Yes, an umpire does have to give me out if I edge it to Third Slip...how am I to know how good his eyes are?

 

[SJS]

During my active days, I used to walk a lot but NOT ALWAYS !

I didnt think of it till I saw this thread. I think the natural inclination was to walk since you thought you were out but on some rare occasions, you were actually stuck or looking in the umpire's direction and noticed he wasnt sure and stayed put.

So I would say walking was a spontaneous act not out of any sense of ethics.

 

[SJS]

I think for bat pad catches one walked less often than for snicks to keeper.

 

[howardj]

As much as I love Gilly - apparently one of the most genuine chaps on the International circuit - does anyone reckon he would walk if he was a fringe player? As far as I know, people only noticed that he was a walker in the 2003 (during the WCup). Did he walk before then - before he had a guaranteed spot in the team? Maybe Im being too cynical, but I do think even walkers are very rarely unconditional walkers.

 

[open365]

As much as I love Gilly - apparently one of the most genuine chaps on the International circuit - does anyone reckon he would walk if he was a fringe player? As far as I know, people only noticed that he was a walker in the 2003 (during the WCup). Did he walk before then - before he had a guaranteed spot in the team? Maybe Im being too cynical, but I do think even walkers are very rarely unconditional walkers.

I think Gilly is an unconditional walker.

 

[honestbharani]

Then again....staying the crease and shouting "F**k you" to the bowler you has just got you seems to be the way to go

Harbhajan sets an awesome example, doesn't he?

 

[honestbharani]

Nah. You're a clever kid. I think you know what I mean.

A batsman not walking is engaging in no active deception.

but what if he takes guard during the appeal like Dean Jones used to do?

 

[SJS]

but what if he takes guard during the appeal like Dean Jones used to do?

In that case he is actually helping the fielding captain with the over rate by saving time

 

[honestbharani]

As much as I love Gilly - apparently one of the most genuine chaps on the International circuit - does anyone reckon he would walk if he was a fringe player? As far as I know, people only noticed that he was a walker in the 2003 (during the WCup). Did he walk before then - before he had a guaranteed spot in the team? Maybe Im being too cynical, but I do think even walkers are very rarely unconditional walkers.

I have seen him stick around even after nicking a couple of times in the late 90s, perhaps against RSA... The one guy that I have seen who has always walked is Lara. Yuvraj is the one from India who seems to walk whenever he nicks it and the catch is taken. Dravid used to but stopped doing it since Ganguly took over.

 

[honestbharani]

In that case he is actually helping the fielding captain with the over rate by saving time

Don't you think such kindness should be rewarded?

 

[Richard]

As TT points out, of course. If he does not give me out then I am not out. Could have come off my forearm.

There is a process defined within the laws of cricket. It would serve us all to keep the game simple by actually following them rather than people applying their own morals and ethics to a situation.

1. Ball is bowled
2. Appeal or no appeal
3. Was ball a no-ball?
4. If not a no-ball and there was an appeal the umpire considers the evidence
5. Gives out or not out
6. If out walk to pavilion, if given not-out carry on batting.

It is a very simple process that people are really over complicating and the batsman is no part off it.

As I've said - I think the things should be amended.
There should be a compulsion to walk if you "know" you are out same way you are compelled to call back a batsman if you "know" you haven't caught it.

 

[Richard]

What's with the comparing of cricketing incidents to offences against another's person these days!?

'Tis the only way to make a decent metaphor.

 

[Richard]

As much as I love Gilly - apparently one of the most genuine chaps on the International circuit - does anyone reckon he would walk if he was a fringe player? As far as I know, people only noticed that he was a walker in the 2003 (during the WCup). Did he walk before then - before he had a guaranteed spot in the team? Maybe Im being too cynical, but I do think even walkers are very rarely unconditional walkers.

I'm not sure he didn't decide to be a walker in that Aus-SL match.
Having seen all the nonsense of recent years.

 

[Richard]

An inside edge is not that obvious...I had someone given not out off a massive one this year.

Yes, an umpire does have to give me out if I edge it to Third Slip...how am I to know how good his eyes are?

But no-one EVER waits for his decision when they nick it to third-slip.