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The CricketWeb comprehensive list of ALL TIME GREATS (ATGs) discussion

M

Majestic

U19 Captain
CricAddict said:
Post 1900
Openers:

Trumper, Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Hutton, Gavaskar, B.Richards, Boycott

3-6:
Bradman, Ponting, Border, Chappell, Waugh, Smith
Dravid, Tendulkar, Kohli
Pollock
Barrington, Hammond, Root, Compton
Headley, Viv, Lara, Worrell, Weekes, Walcott, Kanhai
Miandad, Williamson, Sangakkara

AR's:
Sobers, Kallis, Botham, Miller, Kapil, Imran, Hadlee, Benaud, Noble, Faulkner, Proctor, Jadeja, Shakib

Keepers:
Gilchrist
Knott
Evans

Spinners:
Warne, Murali, Laker, Tayfield, Verity, Grimmett, O'Reilly, Ashwin

Fast Bowlers:
Lillee, Davidson, Lindwall, McGrath
Ambrose, Walsh, Roberts, Holding, Marshall, Garner
Pollock, Donald, Steyn
Trueman, Barnes
Wasim, Waqar
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Great list but if you have Root and Williamson, then should add ABDV as well.
 
bagapath

bagapath

International Captain
My list of all-time great cricketers...

Before World War 1 (1877 - 1914)
  1. WG Grace
  2. Wilfred Rhodes
  3. Victor Trumper
  4. Clem Hill
  5. Fred Spofforth
  6. Sid Barnes
Between Wars (1919 -1939)
  1. Jack Hobbs
  2. Herbert Sutcliffe
  3. George Faulkner
  4. Frank Woolley
  5. Walter Hammond
  6. Don Bradman
  7. Clarrie Grimmett
  8. Bill O Reilley
Post War till the start of ODIs (1945 - 1970)
  1. Len Hutton
  2. Denis Compton
  3. Alec Bedser
  4. Keith Miller
  5. Neil Harvey
  6. Ray Lindwall
  7. Frank Worrell
  8. Clyde Walcott
  9. Everton Weekes
  10. Jim Laker
  11. Gary Sobers
  12. Richie Benaud
  13. Fred Trueman
  14. Alan Davidson
  15. Graeme Pollock
  16. Rohan Kanhai
The ODI / Windies Era (1971 -1995)
  1. Alan Knott
  2. Greg Chappell
  3. Imran Khan
  4. Richard Hadlee
  5. Dennis Lillee
  6. Sunil Gavaskar
  7. Gordon Greenidge
  8. Viv Richards
  9. Andy Roberts
  10. Michael Holding
  11. Joel Garner
  12. Ian Botham
  13. Kapil Dev
  14. Malcolm Marshall
  15. Allan Border
  16. Courtney Walsh
  17. Martin Crowe
  18. Wasim Akram
  19. Steve Waugh
  20. Curtley Ambrose
  21. Sachin Tendulkar
  22. Waqar Younis
  23. Brian Lara
  24. Anil Kumble
  25. Shane Warne
  26. Muralitharan
  27. Glen McGrath
  28. Allan Donald
The Aussie/ T20 Era (1995 - 2020)
  1. Ricky Ponting
  2. Rahul Dravid
  3. Jacques Kallis
  4. Shaun Pollock
  5. Adam Gilchrist
  6. Matty Hayden
  7. Virender Sehwag
  8. Kumar Sangakara
  9. ABDV
  10. Graeme Smith
  11. Dale Steyn
  12. MS Dhoni
  13. Virat Kohli
  14. Kane Williamson
  15. Joe Root
  16. Steve Smith
  17. Ben Stokes
  18. Jasprit Bumrah
  19. Pat Cummins
  20. Kagiso Rabada
 
M

Majestic

U19 Captain
bagapath said:
My list of all-time great cricketers...

Before World War 1 (1877 - 1914)
  1. WG Grace
  2. Wilfred Rhodes
  3. Victor Trumper
  4. Clem Hill
  5. Fred Spofforth
  6. Sid Barnes
Between Wars (1919 -1939)
  1. Jack Hobbs
  2. Herbert Sutcliffe
  3. George Faulkner
  4. Frank Woolley
  5. Walter Hammond
  6. Don Bradman
  7. Clarrie Grimmett
  8. Bill O Reilley
Post War till the start of ODIs (1945 - 1970)
  1. Len Hutton
  2. Denis Compton
  3. Alec Bedser
  4. Keith Miller
  5. Neil Harvey
  6. Ray Lindwall
  7. Frank Worrell
  8. Clyde Walcott
  9. Everton Weekes
  10. Jim Laker
  11. Gary Sobers
  12. Richie Benaud
  13. Fred Trueman
  14. Alan Davidson
  15. Graeme Pollock
  16. Rohan Kanhai
The ODI / Windies Era (1971 -1995)
  1. Alan Knott
  2. Greg Chappell
  3. Imran Khan
  4. Richard Hadlee
  5. Dennis Lillee
  6. Sunil Gavaskar
  7. Gordon Greenidge
  8. Viv Richards
  9. Andy Roberts
  10. Michael Holding
  11. Joel Garner
  12. Ian Botham
  13. Kapil Dev
  14. Malcolm Marshall
  15. Allan Border
  16. Courtney Walsh
  17. Martin Crowe
  18. Wasim Akram
  19. Steve Waugh
  20. Curtley Ambrose
  21. Sachin Tendulkar
  22. Waqar Younis
  23. Brian Lara
  24. Anil Kumble
  25. Shane Warne
  26. Muralitharan
  27. Glen McGrath
  28. Allan Donald
The Aussie/ T20 Era (1995 - 2020)
  1. Ricky Ponting
  2. Rahul Dravid
  3. Jacques Kallis
  4. Shaun Pollock
  5. Adam Gilchrist
  6. Matty Hayden
  7. Virender Sehwag
  8. Kumar Sangakara
  9. ABDV
  10. Graeme Smith
  11. Dale Steyn
  12. MS Dhoni
  13. Virat Kohli
  14. Kane Williamson
  15. Joe Root
  16. Steve Smith
  17. Ben Stokes
  18. Jasprit Bumrah
  19. Pat Cummins
  20. Kagiso Rabada
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Add Ashwin and Anderson in the list. Then it will be 80 all time great cricketers list.
 
kyear2

kyear2

International Coach
bagapath said:
My list of all-time great cricketers...

Before World War 1 (1877 - 1914)
  1. WG Grace
  2. Wilfred Rhodes
  3. Victor Trumper
  4. Clem Hill
  5. Fred Spofforth
  6. Sid Barnes
Between Wars (1919 -1939)
  1. Jack Hobbs
  2. Herbert Sutcliffe
  3. George Faulkner
  4. Frank Woolley
  5. Walter Hammond
  6. Don Bradman
  7. Clarrie Grimmett
  8. Bill O Reilley
Post War till the start of ODIs (1945 - 1970)
  1. Len Hutton
  2. Denis Compton
  3. Alec Bedser
  4. Keith Miller
  5. Neil Harvey
  6. Ray Lindwall
  7. Frank Worrell
  8. Clyde Walcott
  9. Everton Weekes
  10. Jim Laker
  11. Gary Sobers
  12. Richie Benaud
  13. Fred Trueman
  14. Alan Davidson
  15. Graeme Pollock
  16. Rohan Kanhai
The ODI / Windies Era (1971 -1995)
  1. Alan Knott
  2. Greg Chappell
  3. Imran Khan
  4. Richard Hadlee
  5. Dennis Lillee
  6. Sunil Gavaskar
  7. Gordon Greenidge
  8. Viv Richards
  9. Andy Roberts
  10. Michael Holding
  11. Joel Garner
  12. Ian Botham
  13. Kapil Dev
  14. Malcolm Marshall
  15. Allan Border
  16. Courtney Walsh
  17. Martin Crowe
  18. Wasim Akram
  19. Steve Waugh
  20. Curtley Ambrose
  21. Sachin Tendulkar
  22. Waqar Younis
  23. Brian Lara
  24. Anil Kumble
  25. Shane Warne
  26. Muralitharan
  27. Glen McGrath
  28. Allan Donald
The Aussie/ T20 Era (1995 - 2020)
  1. Ricky Ponting
  2. Rahul Dravid
  3. Jacques Kallis
  4. Shaun Pollock
  5. Adam Gilchrist
  6. Matty Hayden
  7. Virender Sehwag
  8. Kumar Sangakara
  9. ABDV
  10. Graeme Smith
  11. Dale Steyn
  12. MS Dhoni
  13. Virat Kohli
  14. Kane Williamson
  15. Joe Root
  16. Steve Smith
  17. Ben Stokes
  18. Jasprit Bumrah
  19. Pat Cummins
  20. Kagiso Rabada
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Wayyy to many names on that list imo
 
TheJediBrah

TheJediBrah

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Majestic said:
Add Ashwin and Anderson in the list. Then it will be 80 all time great cricketers list.
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Anderson is the reason we invented the term ATVG, and Ashwin is a step below him. Too many names already, need to start cutting names rather than adding new ones

Edit: Rabada? Wow
 
kyear2

kyear2

International Coach
It's 2am and I may miss some names, but this seems like a better concise list.


Australia

Simpson
Bradman
Smith
Chappell
Ponting
Border
Waugh
Miller
Gilchrist
McGrath
Warne
Lillee
Lindwall
Davidson
O'Reilly
Grimmett

England

Hobbs
Hutton
Hammond
Barrington
Trueman

West Indies

Greenidge
Headley
Richards
Lara
Weekes
Walcott
Worrell
Sobers
Marshall
Ambrose
Garner
Holding

South Africa

Kallis
Pollock
Steyn
Donald
Pollock
Tayfield

India

Gavaskar
Tendulkar
Dravid
Ashwin

Pakistan

Miandad
Imran
Wasim
Waqar

Sri Lanka

Sangakkara
Muralitharan

New Zealand

Hadlee

Top 50
 
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_00_deathscar

International Regular
TheJediBrah said:
Anderson is the reason we invented the term ATVG, and Ashwin is a step below him. Too many names already, need to start cutting names rather than adding new ones

Edit: Rabada? Wow
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Ashwin is a closer to being a more valuable cricketer than Anderson on account of being a serviceable all rounder.
 
honestbharani

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
_00_deathscar said:
Ashwin is a closer to being a more valuable cricketer than Anderson on account of being a serviceable all rounder.
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Ashwin is an ATG. Anderson is great and at this point, I think his performances keep improving so much that I am not sure why he should not be ATG. TJB is just having a sook as usual at reality.
 
kyear2

kyear2

International Coach
_00_deathscar said:
These lists are starting to read more like “world class players/best of their generation” rather than ATG.
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I think my list is pretty short, but agree to a certain extent.

But there is also levels to this. For batsmen there's Bradman and the legitimate contender to be next in line. And for bowlers there's also a top tier. That would reduce such a list to

Bradman
Sobers
Smith
Richards
Lara
Tendulkar


Hobbs
Hutton
Gavaskar

Marshall
McGrath
Hadlee
Steyn
Ambrose

Gilchrist

Warne
Muralitharan
O'Reilly


Hammond
Kallis
Imran

The last 3 a bit of a combination act, but overall closer to a list of the elite
 
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_00_deathscar

International Regular
kyear2 said:
I think my list is pretty short, but agree to a certain extent.

But there is also levels to this. For batsmen there's Bradman and the legitimate contender to be next in line. And for bowlers there's also a top tier. That would reduce such a list to

Bradman
Sobers
Smith
Richards
Lara
Hammond
Hobbs
Hutton
Gavaskar

Marshall
McGrath
Hadlee
Steyn
Ambrose

Gilchrist

Warne
Muralitharan
O'Reilly



Kallis
Imran

The last 2 a bit of a combination act, but overall closer to a list of the elite
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No Sachin?
 
F

Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
bagapath said:
My list of all-time great cricketers...

Before World War 1 (1877 - 1914)
  1. WG Grace
  2. Wilfred Rhodes
  3. Victor Trumper
  4. Clem Hill
  5. Fred Spofforth
  6. Sid Barnes
Between Wars (1919 -1939)
  1. Jack Hobbs
  2. Herbert Sutcliffe
  3. George Faulkner
  4. Frank Woolley
  5. Walter Hammond
  6. Don Bradman
  7. Clarrie Grimmett
  8. Bill O Reilley
Post War till the start of ODIs (1945 - 1970)
  1. Len Hutton
  2. Denis Compton
  3. Alec Bedser
  4. Keith Miller
  5. Neil Harvey
  6. Ray Lindwall
  7. Frank Worrell
  8. Clyde Walcott
  9. Everton Weekes
  10. Jim Laker
  11. Gary Sobers
  12. Richie Benaud
  13. Fred Trueman
  14. Alan Davidson
  15. Graeme Pollock
  16. Rohan Kanhai
The ODI / Windies Era (1971 -1995)
  1. Alan Knott
  2. Greg Chappell
  3. Imran Khan
  4. Richard Hadlee
  5. Dennis Lillee
  6. Sunil Gavaskar
  7. Gordon Greenidge
  8. Viv Richards
  9. Andy Roberts
  10. Michael Holding
  11. Joel Garner
  12. Ian Botham
  13. Kapil Dev
  14. Malcolm Marshall
  15. Allan Border
  16. Courtney Walsh
  17. Martin Crowe
  18. Wasim Akram
  19. Steve Waugh
  20. Curtley Ambrose
  21. Sachin Tendulkar
  22. Waqar Younis
  23. Brian Lara
  24. Anil Kumble
  25. Shane Warne
  26. Muralitharan
  27. Glen McGrath
  28. Allan Donald
The Aussie/ T20 Era (1995 - 2020)
  1. Ricky Ponting
  2. Rahul Dravid
  3. Jacques Kallis
  4. Shaun Pollock
  5. Adam Gilchrist
  6. Matty Hayden
  7. Virender Sehwag
  8. Kumar Sangakara
  9. ABDV
  10. Graeme Smith
  11. Dale Steyn
  12. MS Dhoni
  13. Virat Kohli
  14. Kane Williamson
  15. Joe Root
  16. Steve Smith
  17. Ben Stokes
  18. Jasprit Bumrah
  19. Pat Cummins
  20. Kagiso Rabada
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Is Dhoni there for his white ball exploits? Otherwise Watling would be a better option. And if Dhoni is there for white ball cricket you need Bevan and Starc. Also not convinced about Rabada
 
Line and Length

Line and Length

Cricketer Of The Year
kyear2 said:
I think my list is pretty short, but agree to a certain extent.

But there is also levels to this. For batsmen there's Bradman and the legitimate contender to be next in line. And for bowlers there's also a top tier. That would reduce such a list to

Bradman
Sobers
Smith
Richards
Lara
Tendulkar


Hobbs
Hutton
Gavaskar

Marshall
McGrath
Hadlee
Steyn
Ambrose

Gilchrist

Warne
Muralitharan
O'Reilly


Hammond
Kallis
Imran

The last 3 a bit of a combination act, but overall closer to a list of the elite
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Only one 'keeper? Gillie was great value, but others were technically better glovemen.
 
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