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The Best Death Bowler

twctopcat said:
Just want to see akhtar bowl over the best batting lineups in the world (no offence NZ), then i will deem how much he has improved. He needs to perform against aussies and eps india. All i can picture of akhtar is him getting tonked by sachin WC '03 and trescothick natwest '03:D, annilhated.
Well said, though had i said the same thing i would have been called pure flame-baiter and biased Indian.

When i praise/criticise any player people start attacking me but the same people are trying their best day and night to degrade India's highly talented cricketer in Ajit.
 

thehellraiser

School Boy/Girl Captain
Just want to see akhtar bowl over the best batting lineups in the world (no offence NZ), then i will deem how much he has improved. He needs to perform against aussies and eps india. All i can picture of akhtar is him getting tonked by sachin WC '03 and trescothick natwest '03, annilhated.


he got hammered by sachin in wc2003 but that was the only time the indians got on top of him......before that he has consistently destroyed the indian battting lineup on a number of occasions.....dating back to the historic test match when he clean bowled tendulkar for a first bal duck.....the following tri series in india after that.....sharjah cup immediately after that.....his consitent performance in the 99 word cup.......as well as the vb series following the world cup

his recent performance in englan in the match one day series against england in england he troubled the english bowlers consistently.......was just a bit unlucky........

then again against south africa in oct-nov last year.....the south africans have a very decnt batting lineup as the england team found out in the summer....he won the series for pakistan......

as far as the aussies are concerned......october 2002....1st test match at colombo.....he was in fiery form....came up with a brilliant spell and was the primary reason for dismissing austrailia for 127 in the second innings....

he has been a bit inconsistent i admit.....but after the poor showing in the world cup....he seems to have got his act together....and the kiwi batting lineup may not be the best in the world but it certainly is not bad as a lot of teams have failed to win test series there......like india in 2002 got hammered in newzealand.......

not only is he deadly but a great bowler at the death......bowling those fast inswinging yorkers.....
 

FRAZ

International Captain
thehellraiser said:
Just want to see akhtar bowl over the best batting lineups in the world (no offence NZ), then i will deem how much he has improved. He needs to perform against aussies and eps india. All i can picture of akhtar is him getting tonked by sachin WC '03 and trescothick natwest '03, annilhated.


he got hammered by sachin in wc2003 but that was the only time the indians got on top of him......before that he has consistently destroyed the indian battting lineup on a number of occasions.....dating back to the historic test match when he clean bowled tendulkar for a first bal duck.....the following tri series in india after that.....sharjah cup immediately after that.....his consitent performance in the 99 word cup.......as well as the vb series following the world cup

his recent performance in englan in the match one day series against england in england he troubled the english bowlers consistently.......was just a bit unlucky........

then again against south africa in oct-nov last year.....the south africans have a very decnt batting lineup as the england team found out in the summer....he won the series for pakistan......

as far as the aussies are concerned......october 2002....1st test match at colombo.....he was in fiery form....came up with a brilliant spell and was the primary reason for dismissing austrailia for 127 in the second innings....

he has been a bit inconsistent i admit.....but after the poor showing in the world cup....he seems to have got his act together....and the kiwi batting lineup may not be the best in the world but it certainly is not bad as a lot of teams have failed to win test series there......like india in 2002 got hammered in newzealand.......

not only is he deadly but a great bowler at the death......bowling those fast inswinging yorkers.....
C'mon , 1 billion people of the world just want to remember Shoaib Akhtar of 2003 world cup . Nothing happened before that .
 

thehellraiser

School Boy/Girl Captain
shoaib akhtar
record against india:
odi:19 wickets @ an avg of 22.52

agaianst aus:

odi:25 wickets @ an avg of 27
best bowling:5/25 at brisbane in 2002
best bowling in tests:5/21 in colombo

again ill re iterate......the indians only got on top of him at the 2003 world cup.........never ever before......the only team that has played him with any sort of composure and purpose is austrailia and he has also come up with inspired performanes against them........again ill admit that he has been a bit inconsistent.....but hopefully he is past that now.......

when it comes to a wicket taking bowler ......i dont think that apart from muralitharan there is any one but him........yeah that will be an idea.....shoaib and muralitharan in the same team....nice

anyway.......bring on tendulkar in the forth coming test series

remember calcuttta anyone
 

thehellraiser

School Boy/Girl Captain
exactly fraz.....thats wat i mean.......wc2003 was the only time that the indians actually got on top of him.....otherwise bf that he has destroyed the indian batting lineup on a number of occasions......he is simply the best in cricket today......

the best
 

thehellraiser

School Boy/Girl Captain
they will just get sent back to the pavillion as kwik as they came out to bat.......the rawalpindi express will be in top form
 

twctopcat

International Regular
thehellraiser said:

again ill re iterate......the indians only got on top of him at the 2003 world cup.........never ever before......the only team that has played him with any sort of composure and purpose is austrailia and he has also come up with inspired performanes against them........again ill admit that he has been a bit inconsistent.....but hopefully he is past that now.......

when it comes to a wicket taking bowler ......i dont think that apart from muralitharan there is any one but him........yeah that will be an idea.....shoaib and muralitharan in the same team....nice

anyway.......bring on tendulkar in the forth coming test series

remember calcuttta anyone
I'm not doubting his abilities, just looking forward to watching him in action in the test series, because to be fair he hasn't performed brill against big teams-australia in tests- 20w @ 38.55 and obviously hasn't had the chance against india. His ODI form is obvious, though he has sometimes choked on big occasion, but no doubt he will improve with experience. However test matches are a different game altogether, just look at brett lee against india, he was no where in the tests but finally found form in the ODI. Can't wait:D .
 

V Reddy

International Debutant
IMO Shoiab Akhtar is the toughest bowler to face at any time when he is in rhythm and he hasn't been out of rhythm much in recent times. He WILL have his moments against India where he will have 20-5 but i hope it happens against the tailenders after the top batsman have scored enough runs
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
thehellraiser said:
exactly fraz.....thats wat i mean.......wc2003 was the only time that the indians actually got on top of him.....otherwise bf that he has destroyed the indian batting lineup on a number of occasions......he is simply the best in cricket today......the best
Hell Raiser - Here is a list of Akhtar's Performance in ODIs. Please show us where he has destroyed the Indian Batting Line up.

http://statserver.cricket.org/perl/...=0&stumpedlow=&stumpedhigh=&csearch=&submit=1


Also, If you can, Please define 'Destruction'. :) Thank You.

I am not questioning Shoaib's ability with the ball, just trying to find the destruction he has caused in the Indian batting line up that too on a no. of occasions.
 
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Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
thehellraiser said:
remember calcuttta anyone
It's ironic that you accuse us of remembering 2003 world cup (which is still fresh in the memory of Cricket fans) and then you yourself go 5 years back to remind us of what happened at Calcutta. I know what happened there, The best bowler in that Game was Srinath and best batsman Saeed Anwar.

As far as Shoaib's average again India and Australia is concerned, well it's below his overall avg and strike rate is poor as well.
 

thehellraiser

School Boy/Girl Captain
well let me just say this......the india pakistan series is gonna be a great one.....hope it brings the people of the 2 countries together(hope it does the same for the people in this forum as well)....we have to rise above our differences and learn to appreciate each other.......shoaib vs sachin is gonaa be a great contest all over again

cant wait
 

imranrabb

U19 Debutant
shoaib is the best bowler in thw world at the moment.It will be hard against the indian batsman but when shoaib is in ryhthm not even tendulkar will stop him.Just need to bowl bouncers haha:lol:
 

thehellraiser

School Boy/Girl Captain
hahahaha.....yes imran ....thats right
pepper them with short balling.......but i have to admit that only ganguly is the one with real problems when it come to facing short balling.......players like dravid are fairly decent at short pitch balling.........

but lets watch the rawalpindi express run through the indian batting lineup
 

imranrabb

U19 Debutant
thehellraiser said:
hahahaha.....yes imran ....thats right
pepper them with short balling.......but i have to admit that only ganguly is the one with real problems when it come to facing short balling.......players like dravid are fairly decent at short pitch balling.........

but lets watch the rawalpindi express run through the indian batting lineup
Also sami will have to bowl out of his skin if he is to retain his place in the squad.If he does the indian batsman will be in trouble
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
imranrabb said:
shoaib is the best bowler in thw world at the moment.
That's very much open to debate.

It's actually interesting that we have many discussions about the best batsman in the world, but very few about the bowlers.
 

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