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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread
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Flem274*
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Yeah Baz only acceptable in the top 6 here as his latter career batting version. His best batting and best keeping periods never happened together so it's cheating to merge them into a player who didn't exist. "We'll merge captaincy McCullum's batting and his peak keeping glovework to create the second best keeper batsman ever thanks. While we're at it we will take young Vettori's bowling and old Vettori's batting."
trundler
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What do you expect from a simpleton who doesn't even know about Turner?
Prince EWS
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Das at 3 seemed really odd to me too - he's only had one Test there and his record in the top 4 overall is awful.
The biggest crime was not including Habibul though. He walks into that side.
The slim picking for openers are hilarious - Joy probably only needs one more ton to make the team already. The second most ever Test tons for a Bangladeshi opener is Kayes, with two.
They were both at home on absolutely disgustingly flat pitches as well, and one was against Zimbabwe for good measure.I'd probably actually pick Javed Omar if we're not allowed to just make Habibul open - he at least usually did a reasonable job of protecting the middle order from the new ball before getting out for 20 (80).
1. Tamim
2. Javed
3. Habibul
4. Mominul
5. Shakib
6. Mushfiqur
7. Mahmudullah
8. Miraz
9. Rafique
10. Mashrafe
11. Fizz
Prince EWS
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Liton and Taijul very close to overtaking to Mahmudullah and Rafique but probably not quite there yet. Can't imagine they won't make it before their careers are done though.
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Too much spin in here. I’d drop Riyad because Miraz is much better than him.Das at 3 seemed really odd to me too - he's only had one Test there and his record in the top 4 overall is awful.
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The biggest crime was not including Habibul though. He walks into that side.
The slim picking for openers are hilarious - Joy probably only needs one more ton to make the team already. The second most ever Test tons for a Bangladeshi opener is Kayes, with two.
I'd probably actually pick Javed Omar if we're not allowed to just make Habibul open - he at least usually did a reasonable job of protecting the middle order from the new ball before getting out for 20 (80).
1. Tamim
2. Javed
3. Habibul
4. Mominul
5. Shakib
6. Mushfiqur
7. Mahmudullah
8. Miraz
9. Rafique
10. Mashrafe
11. Fizz
Rubel replaces Riyad, because he’s a legend
CricAddict
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Yeah I too thought about the point on Bashar but just avoided engaging him.Das at 3 seemed really odd to me too - he's only had one Test there and his record in the top 4 overall is awful.
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The biggest crime was not including Habibul though. He walks into that side.
The slim picking for openers are hilarious - Joy probably only needs one more ton to make the team already. The second most ever Test tons for a Bangladeshi opener is Kayes, with two.
I'd probably actually pick Javed Omar if we're not allowed to just make Habibul open - he at least usually did a reasonable job of protecting the middle order from the new ball before getting out for 20 (80).
1. Tamim
2. Javed
3. Habibul
4. Mominul
5. Shakib
6. Mushfiqur
7. Mahmudullah
8. Miraz
9. Rafique
10. Mashrafe
11. Fizz
Also, while Taskin still averages a horrendous 55, he has been their best pacer in the past year and continues to improve. Fizz struggles to get a place in the test squad, let alone the team. Takin, Shoriful and Ebadot is their first choice with Shohidul and Jayed on reserves.
So Taskin deserves a place there over Fizz. Litton too deserves a place in the team while Omar doesn't.
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TheJediBrah
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Javed Omar was ****ing terribleDas at 3 seemed really odd to me too - he's only had one Test there and his record in the top 4 overall is awful.
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The biggest crime was not including Habibul though. He walks into that side.
The slim picking for openers are hilarious - Joy probably only needs one more ton to make the team already. The second most ever Test tons for a Bangladeshi opener is Kayes, with two.
I'd probably actually pick Javed Omar if we're not allowed to just make Habibul open - he at least usually did a reasonable job of protecting the middle order from the new ball before getting out for 20 (80).
1. Tamim
2. Javed
3. Habibul
4. Mominul
5. Shakib
6. Mushfiqur
7. Mahmudullah
8. Miraz
9. Rafique
10. Mashrafe
11. Fizz
not that such a thing would necessarily preclude one from being in a Bangladesh AT XI . . . but still. He was just terrible
CricAddict
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Yes. Slim pickings but I will probably take the HTB Kayes over him. Joy looks good to hold that spot soon though.
1. Tamim
2. Joy
3. Mominul
4. Shakib
5. Mushfiqur
6. Litton
7. Mahmudullah
8. Miraz
9. Taskin
10. Mashrafe
11. Rafique/Taijul
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
IIRC Omar used to bat with a helmet without a grill. That makes him a legend.
ataraxia
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Omar's mediocrity is rather summed up by the opening line of his cricinfo profile:
"Not many realise that this underrated opener was the first batsman in the new millennium to carry his bat through an entire Test innings."
Anyway, Shahriar "I average 26" Nafees has to be up there.
"Not many realise that this underrated opener was the first batsman in the new millennium to carry his bat through an entire Test innings."
Anyway, Shahriar "I average 26" Nafees has to be up there.
TheJediBrah
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If I'm not mistaken he's the guy that made 140-odd against Aus in 2006 and gave Bangladesh a massive first innings lead
cleetus hicks
Cricket Spectator
jadeja?
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
If you want a 2nd spinner pick Jadeja, if not pick Stokes. This obviously would depend on pitch etc
Didn't Junaid Siddiq debut with Tamim in that series - they had one magic session at Dunedin before crumbling the following day? Junaid also better than Javed Omar. But yeah, Habibul opens in the Bangladesh all time team...
Tamim
Habibul
Mominul
Mushfiqur
Shakib al H
Mahmudullah
Liton Das *
Mehedi
Taijul
pick two pacers.... Mashrafe, Fizz, Robiul, Abu Jayed...
It would depend on playing in india vs playing just about anywhere else
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Lots of Test XIs here, let's do ODI ATG XIs...starting with England because they are the coolest ever ODI side:
1. J. Roy
2. J. Bairstow
3. J. Root
4. K. Pietersen
5. E. Morgan c
6. J. Buttler wk
7. B. Stokes ar
8. F. Flintoff ar
9. A. Rashid
10. D. Gough
11. L. Plunkett
Now that is some batting firepower. Could include the likes of Hales, Trescothic, maybe even Jimmy, Board or Botham.
1. J. Roy
2. J. Bairstow
3. J. Root
4. K. Pietersen
5. E. Morgan c
6. J. Buttler wk
7. B. Stokes ar
8. F. Flintoff ar
9. A. Rashid
10. D. Gough
11. L. Plunkett
Now that is some batting firepower. Could include the likes of Hales, Trescothic, maybe even Jimmy, Board or Botham.
Flem274*
123/5
hammering x to doubt
Also Englands competition are going to love those openers. With a couple of exceptions like Michael Bevan, I have zero faith in white ball players who can't succeed in tests when it comes to the big boy stages of an ODI world cup. They're always very limited players and get ruthlessly exposed.
Marcus Trescothick strolls into that team. He's England's best ever ODI opener and it isn't close. Also your batting order is a bit weird and I've just noticed you've included Rashid and Plunket, which is insane.
A properly selected English side is an excellent team, even if it is from Queensland.
Trescothick
Bairstow
Root
KP
Stokes
Morgan
Buttler (wk)
Flintoff
Swann
Archer
Gough