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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread
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Pretty sure Hutton’s strike rate was roughly 40.
Gob
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Ashes
Hutton
Hobbs
Bradman
Smith
Waugh, SR
Border
Botham
Knott
Warne
Lillee
McGrath
Keeper was the hardest to decide. Had an Australian keeper but that left only 3 englishmen and it just didn't feel right. Plus it makes sense to have the GOAT glove man when you have Botham in at 7.
The said Australian keeper however is not Adam Gilchrist who is an automatic choice for me for the AT side but his Ashes exploits feels a touch below his usual standards (still averages 45). Brad haddin was my original choice as I think he had more impact on Ashes cricket than Gilchrist. Haddin has 3rd most runs behind Knott and Marsh and one of the only two keepers along with Gilchrist to average over 40 and his impact in 13/14 was probably more valuable than Johnson
Hutton
Hobbs
Bradman
Smith
Waugh, SR
Border
Botham
Knott
Warne
Lillee
McGrath
Keeper was the hardest to decide. Had an Australian keeper but that left only 3 englishmen and it just didn't feel right. Plus it makes sense to have the GOAT glove man when you have Botham in at 7.
The said Australian keeper however is not Adam Gilchrist who is an automatic choice for me for the AT side but his Ashes exploits feels a touch below his usual standards (still averages 45). Brad haddin was my original choice as I think he had more impact on Ashes cricket than Gilchrist. Haddin has 3rd most runs behind Knott and Marsh and one of the only two keepers along with Gilchrist to average over 40 and his impact in 13/14 was probably more valuable than Johnson
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Fuller Pilch
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Hugh Trumble was perhaps even better than Warne in the Ashes. He had 1 test and no wickets vs South Africa and 31 Ashes tests where he averaged about 20 with both bat and ball (141 Ashes wickets in 31 tests).
Also H Sutcliffe scored 8 100s and 16 50s to Hutton's 5 and 14 and averaged 66.85 from 48 innings with 5 not outs, while Hutton averaged 56.46 from 49 innings with 6 not outs despite scoring his average-boosting 364.
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Gob
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Ah I did put some research in to it and probably mistook Hutton's record for Sutcliffe's. Yeah probably more deserving. Perhaps not the same class but Langer also worth a mention. Best Australian batsman in 05
Don't think you can leave out Warne for any other spinner tbh. I was aware of Trumble's record but without wanting to put down an era, Warne played in a much more competitive one
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Seriously though he was immense in 13/14. Australia were 5 down for **** all in all tests but Adelaide and even there, they were 5 for 250 or something and back in those days, 550 was like par there. Dig them out in all the games
Add in some other performances like Cardiff and Lords 09, Brisbane 10/11 and Edgbaston 13 on top of that, definitely an Ashes great rad
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Gob
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Imagine you take five hard earned wickets which include Lara, Richards et al that too while giving reasonable 240 odd runs, who'd you rather see walking in? BJ Watling or AB DeVilliers
Obviously BJ is the better keeper but DeVilliers was surprisingly good with the gloves
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I've said this before when I picked the best team I've seen (post 95), I always pick both Warne and Murali which means I need a bowling all rounder so I end up picking Flintoff who is, despite the stats, is a far superior bowler to Kallis.
Also there is a question mark over Kallis's effect at number 6 where ideally you'd want a counter attacking batsman. Make no mistake Kallis is arguably the greatest cricketer of his generation so if you want him in the side, maybe push Lara to 3 and slot Kallis in at 5 where he'll get more time to build an innings. You can do it with your team cos you have 3 front line pacemen and Kallis is very useful 4th pace option
Some one like AB DeVilliers or Steve Waugh at six won't be the worst idea