Boycott’s average in Australia was 45. If you exclude the tour while WSC was going on, his average there was 60.
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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread
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aussie tragic
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Specsavers or AA appointment would be nice, too many Penfolds it seems@aussie tragic
Care to post your source mate? Since you value facts and all
Or should I just go ahead and book your optometrist appointment for you?
I swear statsguru gave me that info lol
Fuller Pilch
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I'm sure there should be a few "not related" Khans you could put in there. Interestingly the other John Reid (NZ player of the 80s) is related to Bruce.
aussie tragic
International Captain
I keep seeing Barry Richards selected in ATG Test teams. Not his fault obviously, but he played only 4 tests with an impressive record of 508 runs at 72.57 with 2 hundreds
Well guess what, Sunil Gavaskar after only 4 Tests had 774 runs at 154.80 and 4 hundreds....so who was the better opener after such a small sample size?
Why are people convinced he was a proven Test star when he may have become a Hick or Mark Waugh at Test Level? It's like picking Sobers in an ATG T20 XI
Well guess what, Sunil Gavaskar after only 4 Tests had 774 runs at 154.80 and 4 hundreds....so who was the better opener after such a small sample size?
Why are people convinced he was a proven Test star when he may have become a Hick or Mark Waugh at Test Level? It's like picking Sobers in an ATG T20 XI
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_00_deathscar
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Should have retired there and then to be the first pick on a cricket forum some 40-50 years later.
h_hurricane
International Vice-Captain
Vinod Kambli made a huge mistake not retiring after 4 tests. Was averaging almost twice as much as Barry Richards at that point
Also averaged better than Richards in his first class career.
Also averaged better than Richards in his first class career.
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In terms of pure strokeplay you would be hard pressed to find someone better than ABdV but based on test matches, he cant displace Tendulkar or Sobers. I feel like picking somebody with barely a test career ahead of guys who achieved so much is a bit disrespectful. Gavaskar and Hutton were once in a generation cricketers and nobody has come close to bettering either between or since their careers. It's okay to pick Cowie for the NZATXI based on the fact that he got Bradman out in some FC match one time but when you can pick from 143 years of test cricket, why not go for blokes who did it for 20 years and proved their mettle against everywhere. For that matter, Bruce Mitchell deserves to open with Smith in the SAATXI on the back of being SA's rock for so long IMO.
honestbharani
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In the hard to explain, completely subjective area of judging "batsmanship", I think AB is even crossing Lara now, who was the pinnacle among the guys I have watched.
bagapath
International Captain
for a post 1995 XI (from the past 25 years, that is)
Lara, Tendulkar and ABDV should make up the middle order in terms of all round batsmanship.
Throw in Anwar, Hayden, Stokes, Gilchrist and you have a top 7 guaranteed to produce stroke filled innings in most conditions against most attacks. with Akram, Ambrose, Steyn and Warne to be the bowling attack matching the batters in terms of cricketing genius
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Actually a perfect example if someone was trying to talk down B.RichardsVinod Kambli made a huge mistake not retiring after 4 tests. Was averaging almost twice as much as Barry Richards at that point
Also averaged better than Richards in his first class career.
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ATG Test XI:
Hubbs
Hutton
Bradman
Smith
Bevan
Imran
Gilchrist
Warne
Marshall
Murali
McGrath
Hubbs
Hutton
Bradman
Smith
Bevan
Imran
Gilchrist
Warne
Marshall
Murali
McGrath
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True I forgot he averages 24 with the ball in Tests
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Toughest shot to play in cricket. Bar none. Which is why you hardly ever see it.
He played and missed at the first ball he faced that day apparently, prompting Marsh to say "I thought this bloke could ****ing well bat." Watch the last ball of the day apparently after he hit Lillee back past him to the boundary to walk off on 325, Inverarity walked over to Marsh and said "I think he goes ok"
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h_hurricane
International Vice-Captain
And Bevan had played more than 50% of his matches away from home unlike Barry who played all those matches in his backyard.