The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

[TheJediBrah]

Jose Garber

Tall Mexican fast bowler

 

[bagapath]

Great career by Dhoni but he still doesn’t make my odi xi

Gilchrist
Tendulkar
Richards
Kohli
DeVilliers
Symonds
Kapil
Wasim
Garner
Murali
McGrath

a straight shoot-out between symonds and dhoni is likely to end in dhoni's favor in my books

Gilchrist
Tendulkar
Richards
Kohli
DeVilliers
Dhoni + *
Kapil
Wasim
Garner
Murali
McGrath

Reserves: Symonds. Jayasuriya. Ponting
In the squad of 16: S.Pollock, Hussey

 

[honestbharani]

Red Hill's side has a lot of holes in it, for me, but we have had this argument to death here and he is entitled to his best XI. Fair to say, not many will share his views though.

 

[TheJediBrah]

I don't think you could easily improve on Red Hill's side tbh. Bevan, Dhoni and Symonds all in the mix for the no. 6 spot but not a lot between them when you take all facets into account. Comes down to personal preference at this stage.

I might replace Gilchrist + Symonds with Watson + Bevan and give ABdV the gloves

 

[srbhkshk]

Sachin
Rohit
Viv
Kohli
ABD
Dhoni
Kapil
Pollock
Saqlain
Wasim
McGrath

Can drop one of Kapil or Pollock for Bevan and ask him , Tendulkar and Viv to complete the 10 overs.

 

[trundler]

I don't think you could easily improve on Red Hill's side tbh. Bevan, Dhoni and Symonds all in the mix for the no. 6 spot but not a lot between them when you take all facets into account. Comes down to personal preference at this stage.

I might replace Gilchrist + Symonds with Watson + Bevan and give ABdV the gloves

Wasn't as good a batsman and his bowling is a non-factor.

 

[TheJediBrah]

much better fielder than Bevan

Watson probably one of the most underrated ODI players though. Him and Pollock.

 

[honestbharani]

I don't think you could easily improve on Red Hill's side tbh.

Jayasuriya
Sachin
Kohli
Viv
AB
MSD (c) (wk)
Flintoff
Pollock
Wasim
Ambrose
Murali


Easy peasy.

 

[trundler]

Jayasuriya is a downgrade tho

 

[honestbharani]

Jayasuriya is a downgrade tho

How? Equally destructive with the bat and adds a bowling option instead of a non-keeping Gilly.

 

[vcs]

Jayasuriya
Sachin
Kohli
Viv
AB
MSD (c) (wk)
Flintoff
Pollock
Wasim
Ambrose
Murali


Easy peasy.

Bit of a stretch. Those are both great teams.

 

[vcs]

How? Equally destructive with the bat and adds a bowling option instead of a non-keeping Gilly.

I am assuming Gilchrist keeps in Red Hill's team. Wouldn't want De Villiers keeping to Murali.

 

[trundler]

How? Equally destructive with the bat and adds a bowling option instead of a non-keeping Gilly.

Way more flaky imo. Gilchrist is already pushing it for me.

 

[ankitj]

You can't have ATG ODI side with both Dhoni and Bevan missing. You are leaving out 2 best #6/#7 players ever. That side is super easy to improve.

 

[honestbharani]

Jayasuriya was less flaky than Gilly. That is just a fact.

 

[honestbharani]

I am assuming Gilchrist keeps in Red Hill's team. Wouldn't want De Villiers keeping to Murali.

Thought he had MSD in the side. Either way, when I have MSD he is the keeper. Don't need Gilchrist to keep and given that and the fact that Jayasuriya was the better opener, it makes sense to pick him, for me.

 

[ankitj]

Imran's ODI record has grown on me and I am inclined to say he is the best ODI all-rounder ever but it's not easy to fit him in an ATG ODI side because only place for an all-rounder is either as opener or in lower middle order.

 

[trundler]

The only real upgrade in that side is Flintoff's bowling but he's batting out of position

 

[TheJediBrah]

Jayasuriya
Sachin
Kohli
Viv
AB
MSD (c) (wk)
Flintoff
Pollock
Wasim
Ambrose
Murali


Easy peasy.

no

Jayasuriya was less flaky than Gilly. That is just a fact.

no

Thought he had MSD in the side. Either way, when I have MSD he is the keeper. Don't need Gilchrist to keep and given that and the fact that Jayasuriya was the better opener, it makes sense to pick him, for me.

no

 

[srbhkshk]

Imran's ODI record has grown on me and I am inclined to say he is the best ODI all-rounder ever but it's not easy to fit him in an ATG ODI side because only place for an all-rounder is either as opener or in lower middle order.

Nah, Kapil is at least as good if not better imo, their bowling records are almost similar and while Kapil does go in the territory of low average he played on quite a bit more than Imran (225 matches to 175), his record in the 80s with 143 matches (batting average 27 with SR 100+, bowling average 26.25 is extreme I think.)