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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Give some comprehensive reasons why you think Gilchrist wasn't great at ODIs. Considering he's been selected in many AT ODI XIs in many different spheres.

If your reasoning is "he only averaged 35", then don't bother.

Well, it makes more sense than your only reason for his apparent ODI greatness being "hundred in WC finals".. And him being selected in an AT ODI XI is just the same as MSD being selected in an AT T20I XI. If you want me to pull out a statistical analysis for why he is not great, you gotta wait till I finish my work day. But subjectively, I watched almost all of his ODIs and he was not the best keeper nor the best opener and therefore not an ATG in this format. Maybe my post should read AT greatness instead of just greatness but that is where I stand. He is an ATG in tests but not in ODIs. Many people just assume he was an ATG in that format based on test success, just like that poster did with MSD and T20.
 
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ataraxia

International Coach
Completely-ignoring-averages-ATG-XI:

SM Gavaskar
CG Greenidge
DG Bradman
IVA Richards
BC Lara
IT Botham - 5
Wasim Akram - 2
D Tallon +
SK Warne - 4
DK Lillee - 1
T Richardson - 3
 

ataraxia

International Coach
Is not liking the country he was from a comprehensive enough reason?
Yes. If you go into comprehensive detail that is. For example:

Australians suck because they really do suck and the vast majority of them suck and Australian sportspeople are dumber than the usual Australian so therefore Gilchrist must suck. TLDR: Australians suck because they do.
 

sunilz

International Regular
Give some comprehensive reasons why you think Gilchrist wasn't great at ODIs. Considering he's been selected in many AT ODI XIs in many different spheres.

If your reasoning is "he only averaged 35", then don't bother.
Wait a min , so many Aus posters are picking Steve smith instead of Viv Richards in their AT XI despite Viv Richards would make AT XI of 95 % retired cricketers.

So Steve smith has done enough to replace Viv Richards in AT XI but Rohit sharma hasn't done enough to replace Gilchrist in ODI AT XI despite the fact that even before Rohit emergence as a great ODI opener, Gilchrist wasn't sure of his place in AT XI. Talk about hypocrisy
 

ataraxia

International Coach
Wait a min , so many Aus posters are picking Steve smith instead of Viv Richards in their AT XI despite Viv Richards would make AT XI of 95 % retired cricketers.

So Steve smith has done enough to replace Viv Richards in AT XI but Rohit sharma hasn't done enough to replace Gilchrist in ODI AT XI despite the fact that even before Rohit emergence as a great ODI opener, Gilchrist wasn't sure of his place in AT XI. Talk about hypocrisy
tbf I'm pretty sure only stephen does that.
 

jimmy101

Cricketer Of The Year
After having a browse through the last few posts I think I have invented a mathematical expression that accurately sums up the situation...

Australian players = suck

Not sure if someone here can expand on this?
 

ataraxia

International Coach
After having a browse through the last few posts I think I have invented a mathematical expression that accurately sums up the situation...

Australian players = suck

Not sure if someone here can expand on this?
Tbh I was being sarcastic. But pretty much.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Damien Martyn sucks too. The name you are looking for is Marnus Labuskagnee... :)


EDIT: No wonder people say he is Stan McCabe reincarnate too. :p
 

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