The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

[NUFAN]

Reckon from the last 20 years Australia has produced 3 full teams of very high quality.

4th team starts dropping off when you have to decide on Emery, Manou, Paine or Wade as keeper and a host of spinners who are not named Warne, MacGill, Miller. Tim May might actually be the next best, Lyon's start has moved into the mix too.

 

[Cabinet96]

How good would this team be - my spidey sense is tingling just looking at it

1. Jack Hobbs
2. Herbert Sutcliffe
3. Barry Richards
4. Don Bradman
5. Keith Miller*
6. Archie Jackson/Garfield Sobers (mood dependant)
7. Mike Procter
8. Alan Davidson
9. Don Tallon †
10. Shane Warnie
11. Waqar Younis/Malcolm Marshall/Bill O'Reilly (mood dependant)

Like this. The compensation for a specialist glovemen is dealt with well by a strong 10 and 11 and two genuine bowling all rounders. More interesting than the usual sides IMO.

"c Marsh b Lillee" is certainly one of the most fascinating partnerships, well thought out.

AWTA. Would be tempted to chuck in Murali and Mehala as well (the most common bowler and outfielder combination in test history)

 

[smash84]

Didn't gavaskar start after imran?

Nopes, 3 months earlier

 

[Days of Grace]

Halloween Special: The Living vs. The Dead

The Dead
Hobbs
Hutton
Bradman (c)
Headley
Hammond
Miller
Ames (wk)
Lindwall
Marshall
O'Reilly
Barnes

The Living
Gavaskar
Hayden
Richards
Tendulkar
Lara
Sobers
Gilchrist (wk)
Hadlee
Warne (c)
Lillee
McGrath

Would be a great game. Who has the edge in the bowling?

 

[smash84]

Halloween Special: The Living vs. The Dead

The Dead
Hobbs
Hutton
Bradman (c)
Headley
Hammond
Miller
Ames (wk)
Lindwall
Marshall
O'Reilly
Barnes

The Living
Gavaskar
Hayden
Richards
Tendulkar
Lara
Sobers
Gilchrist (wk)
Hadlee
Warne (c)
Lillee
McGrath

Would be a great game. Who has the edge in the bowling?

The probably have a slight edge in bowling. The dead have a killer batting IMO

 

[Prince EWS]

The dead have a killer batting IMO

Sounds like a good recruiting tool.

 

[smash84]

 

[Days of Grace]

Who would others pick as The Dead's wicketkeeper, and the Living's opening combination?

Also, would you find a way to get Murali in the team?

 

[smash84]

Murali or Warne. I am fine with both.

Tallon can be had as the wk of the dead

 

[Satyanash89]

Ugly but effective XI

Cook
Graeme Smith
Miandad
Chanderpaul
Steve Waugh (c)...arguable, but couldnt find another suitable batsman
MS Dhoni
Mike Procter
Jeff Thomson
Malinga
Courtney Walsh
Muralitharan

Needed a better bowler than Malinga in there... Croft maybe? any suggessions?

 

[smash84]

angus fraser perhaps?

 

[Jager]

Chanderpaul instead of Waugh, perhaps?

 

[Prince EWS]

Chanderpaul instead of Waugh, perhaps?

Chanderpaul is already in there.

If Malinga is going to be replaced I think it should be by a batsman personally, or a predominately batting player anyway. Dhoni at 6 and Procter at 7 is blekhh.

 

[Red]

Who would others pick as The Dead's wicketkeeper, and the Living's opening combination?

Also, would you find a way to get Murali in the team?

"Dead" wicketkeeper would be Godfrey Evans for me.

"Living" openers would be Sunny Gavaskar and Geoff Boycott.


Dead XI

Jack Hobbs
Len Hutton
Don Bradman (c)
George Headley
Wally Hammond
Frank Woolley
Godfrey Evans (wk)
Ray Lindwall
Malcolm Marshall
Tiger O'Reilly
SF Barnes

Living XI

Geoff Boycott
Sunny Gavaskar
Viv Richards
Greg Chappell
Sachin Tendulkar
Garry Sobers
Imran Khan (c)
Allan Knott (wk)
Richard Hadlee
Shane Warne
Dennis Lillee

 

[Jager]

Chanderpaul is already in there.

If Malinga is going to be replaced I think it should be by a batsman personally, or a predominately batting player anyway. Dhoni at 6 and Procter at 7 is blekhh.

Alright this is too far, why am I so **** over the past two days?

 

[Jager]

"Dead" wicketkeeper would be Godfrey Evans for me.

"Living" openers would be Sunny Gavaskar and Geoff Boycott.

I can only assume you're off your rocker - where's Barry Richards!?

 

[Spooony]

Just pondering something. Did Bradman knew in his time what reverse swing was and what a sub continent pitch looks like?

Other thing is all those really quick bowlers how effective would they be today considering the 2 bouncer rule and all the body protection available?

 

[Red]

I can only assume you're off your rocker - where's Barry Richards!?

Not off my rocker just yet, only early on Friday arvo!

I just like to throw something in there from time to time.

FTR, Boycott had a better FC average than B. Richards (not that it matters much!)

And B. Richards was excellent, no doubt. But his 4 tests aren't enough to judge him on.

Worth considering how consistent Boycott was against all countries in all conditions imo...

Batting records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPN Cricinfo

 

[Jager]

Sticky XI

1. Jack Hobbs
2. Herbert Sutcliffe
3. Victor Trumper
4. Neil Harvey
5. Stanley Jackson (5)
6. VVS Laxman
7. Syed Kirmani †
8. Hedley Verity (3)
9. Anil Kumble (4)
10. Bill O'Reilly (2)
11. Sydney Barnes (1)

Includes some hunch picks.

 

[smash84]

that looks like a lot of hunch picks