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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

Days of Grace

Days of Grace

International Captain
A WORLD TEST XI 1975-1999

SM Gavaskar
GA Gooch
IVA Richards
SR Tendulkar
AR Border*
IT Botham
PJL Dujon+
Imran Khan
RJ Hadlee
MD Marshall
SK Warne

****, that’s a ridiculous team. Five quality bowling options and batting down to 11. Refection of what was arguably the strongest quality era in cricket history.
 
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Days of Grace

Days of Grace

International Captain
To line-up against a 21st century XI

V Sehwag
ML Hayden
KC Sangakkara
BC Lara
SPD Smith
JH Kallis
AC Gilchrist+
SM Pollock
DW Steyn
M Muralitharan
GD McGrath

Hilariously long tail with Anderson in there so I went for another pace-bowling allrounder.
 
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Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
Days of Grace said:
A WORLD TEST XI 1975-1999

SM Gavaskar
CG Greenidge
IVA Richards
SR Tendulkar
AR Border*
IT Botham
PJL Dujon+
Imran Khan
RJ Hadlee
MD Marshall
SK Warne

****, that’s a ridiculous team. Five quality bowling options and batting down to 11. Refection of what was arguably the strongest quality era in cricket history.
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1950-1974

Hutton
Simpson*
Barrington
Pollock
Weekes
Sobers
Miller
Knott+
Davidson
Trueman
Laker

1925-1949

Hobbs
Sutcliffe
Bradman*
Headley
Compton (was averaging 60 through the first half of his career!)
Hammond
Ames+
Lindwall
Larwood
Grimmett
O'Reilly
 
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Bolo

State Captain
Days of Grace said:
To line-up against a 21st century XI

V Sehwag
ML Hayden
KC Sangakkara
BC Lara
SPD Smith
JH Kallis
AC Gilchrist+
SM Pollock
DW Steyn
M Muralitharan
GD McGrath

Hilariously long tail with Anderson in there so I went for another pace-bowling allrounder.
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This team will get crushed by the other one in swinging countries. Top and middle is really strong in SC and AUS, but no good in England/RSA. Only one top swing bowler.

Some question marks on longevity in the time period. Lara, Pollock and Smith each only managed 4 or so good years in the time period.
 
harsh.ag

harsh.ag

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
21st Century

Hayden
Cook
Ponting
Tendulkar
Sangakkara
Kallis
Gilchrist
Steyn
Anderson
McGrath
Murali
 
morgieb

morgieb

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Bolo said:
This team will get crushed by the other one in swinging countries. Top and middle is really strong in SC and AUS, but no good in England/RSA. Only one top swing bowler.

Some question marks on longevity in the time period. Lara, Pollock and Smith each only managed 4 or so good years in the time period.
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Look at McGrath's record in South Africa and England. He really didn't need to swing it.

Agree that Sehwag/Hayden is dodgy in seam-friendly conditions though. Hence why Smith should be there. Don't agree so much about the middle order though.
 
stephen

stephen

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I'd have Smith over Sehwag too. I think he'd compliment Hayden very nicely at the top of the order.

As for the bowling attack I'd take Pollock over Anderson as the third seamer for his batting. Another option would be someone like Rabada, but his career isn't that long. Philander might work too and he can hold a bat.

Any side that had McGrath and Murali needs a strong 8 and 9. Steyn is one. Johnson might actually work well in this position too, though he could be torn apart by the batsmen if he's having an off day. Maybe that's not so much of an issue with Murali to bowl a lot of overs and Kallis as the 4th seamer.

Hayden
Smith
Ponting
Sangakkara
Smith
Kallis
Gilchrist
Johnson
Steyn
Murali
McGrath

I figure Tendulkar can't be playing in both the 90s team and the 00s team but he'd be in ahead of Sangakkara.

Johnson only works because of Kallis and Murali. Picking him is a bit like picking Botham - he could be puss or he could be a wrecking ball.
 
stephen

stephen

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
If you want to pick based on bowling average you don't have much choice this century - McGrath, Steyn, Philander and Rabada are the only ones to have averaged under 25 and taken 150+ wickets this century.
 
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Bolo

State Captain
morgieb said:
Look at McGrath's record in South Africa and England. He really didn't need to swing it.

Agree that Sehwag/Hayden is dodgy in seam-friendly conditions though. Hence why Smith should be there. Don't agree so much about the middle order though.
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Rather not a Mcgrath/Pollock combo. Bit ineffective if it isn't seaming.

Middle order doesn't have the extent of problems the openers do, but everyone has a bit of a weakness in swinging conditions.

Small problems end up compounding.
 
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