bagapath
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this xi has got pretty much everything.
greenidge
haynes
richards
lara
pietersen
lloyd (c)
flintoff
swann
holding
roberts
garner
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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread
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greenidge
haynes
richards
lara
pietersen
lloyd (c)
flintoff
swann
holding
roberts
garner
Zinzan
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Good side, although decent argument for Hick > Collingwood (and batting 1 up ahead of Flintoff.) Has an excellent record for the era in which he played & not sure there'd be too many overs for a 6th bowler with that attack, but Hick was more than useful as a second spinner if required.
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Hashim Amla
Glenn Turner
Kane Williamson
Jacques Kallis
AB de Villiers * +
Chris Cairns
Shaun Pollock
Lance Klusener
Daniel Vettori
Richard Hadlee
Allan Donald
Interesting head to head battles. I would say the openers are about even. Richards & Lara > Williamson & Kallis at 3 & 4. AB > Pietersen @ 5 & although Lloyd was a better bat than Cairns at 6, Pollock, Klusener, Vettori and Hadlee is much superior 7-10 than Flintoff, Swann, Hodling & Roberts (long tail).
In terms of pure ODI bowling, Garner is arguably the best bowler from both sides, but Hadlee, Donald & Pollock were all individually better ODI bowlers than Holding, Roberts & Flintoff imo and Vettori > Swann as a one day bowler. NZ/SA then have Kallis and Cairns bowling as bonus territory.
So close overall.
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All-time SA test side (first I've done since 2010 which now includes AB & Steyn)
If AB keeps, the side has an incredible bowling attack with two class spinners in Tayfield & Faulkner, or alternatively you pick Boucher as a specialist keeper batting at 7-8 & drop Tayfield.
Barry Richards
Graeme Smith (c)
Jacques Kallis
Graeme Pollock
AB de Villiers (wk)
Aubrey Faulkner
Shaun Pollock
Mike Procter
Hugh Tayfield
Dale Steyn
Allan Donald
If AB keeps, the side has an incredible bowling attack with two class spinners in Tayfield & Faulkner, or alternatively you pick Boucher as a specialist keeper batting at 7-8 & drop Tayfield.
Barry Richards
Graeme Smith (c)
Jacques Kallis
Graeme Pollock
AB de Villiers (wk)
Aubrey Faulkner
Shaun Pollock
Mike Procter
Hugh Tayfield
Dale Steyn
Allan Donald
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Coronis
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Can't fault this side tbh. Would not think about dropping AB for Boucher. Ridiculous bowling depth.
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Yeah, you mean dropping Tayfield for Boucher....AB's in whether he's keeping or not.
bagapath
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Red
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The flexibility available with the SA ATG side has to be the most of any nations. Heaps of possible combinations, and adaptable to all conditions.
Want heaps of batting, two spinners with a gun keeper? (and still keep 2 quicks plus Kallis)…easy...
Barry Richards
Graeme Smith
Jacques Kallis
Graeme Pollock
AB de Villiers
Dudley Nourse
Aubrey Faulkner
Dennis Lindsay/John Waite +
Hugh Tayfield
Dale Steyn
Allan Donald
Want an all out pace assault that would rival the WIs….easy…Donald, Steyn, Procter, Pollock, Kallis….plus a ridiculously long batting line up….
Barry Richards
Graeme Smith
Hashim Amla
Graeme Pollock
Jacques Kallis
Dudley Nourse
AB de Villiers +
Mike Procter
Shaun Pollock
Dale Steyn
Allan Donald
Zinzan
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Nice sides, even if you may be slightly overrating Sidebum.
Who wins a hypothetical test series between these two teams?
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Indeed, to think the likes of Peter Pollock and Neil Adcock don't even get a mention.
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Best Asian test XI I've seen this. I know many would have Sehwag > Mohammad as opener, but I think you've nailed it.
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5 years ago I would have said Dravid, but Sanga reasonably comfortably considering what he's achieved in the last 5-6 years, and of course his record playing as a stand-alone batsman is almost freakish. Averaging around 70 IIRC.
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Probably Sanga. Very close though. Sanga, Dravid and Kallis are all pretty tough to split for me.
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The Northern Hemisphere
01. Jack Hobbs
02. Len Hutton
03. Viv Richards
04. Sachin Tendulkar
05. Kumar Sangakkara
06. Garry Sobers
07. Alan Knott
08. Imran Khan
09. Malcolm Marshall
10. Curtly Ambrose
11. Muttiah Muralitharan
The Southern Hemisphere
01. Barry Richards
02. Bill Lawry
03. Don Bradman
04. Graeme Pollock
05. Greg Chappell
06. Jacques Kallis
07. Adam Gilchrist
08. Richard Hadlee
09. Shane Warne
10. Dennis Lillee
11. Glenn McGrath
01. Jack Hobbs
02. Len Hutton
03. Viv Richards
04. Sachin Tendulkar
05. Kumar Sangakkara
06. Garry Sobers
07. Alan Knott
08. Imran Khan
09. Malcolm Marshall
10. Curtly Ambrose
11. Muttiah Muralitharan
The Southern Hemisphere
01. Barry Richards
02. Bill Lawry
03. Don Bradman
04. Graeme Pollock
05. Greg Chappell
06. Jacques Kallis
07. Adam Gilchrist
08. Richard Hadlee
09. Shane Warne
10. Dennis Lillee
11. Glenn McGrath
Lillian Thomson
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I was rather more startled by the presence of Bill Lawry.
harsh.ag
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Haha beat me to it