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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
kyear2 said:
I don't dispute this, my argument is who did Hobbs or Sutcliffe face that was even comparable to that Australian unit, and did they ever see pitches like the ones he played on at home. Even Gavaskar didn't perform that well in those types of pitches, and for the vast majority of his career Hutton batted on pancakes, with limited pace opposition.

Yes they are better, also saying that what they faced were worlds apart.
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No, they played on wet uncovered pitches and matting pitches.
 
kyear2

kyear2

International Coach
Coronis said:
No, they played on wet uncovered pitches and matting pitches.
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I am aware, and that helped to form his legacy, but it's also not relatable to what we face today and I personally don't know how many how had to face.

I'm not trying to say they didn't have their own challenges, but I'm saying they all had their own challenges. I've also acknowledged the others to be better, but for what I want, Smith is the best option, at least for now.
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
kyear2 said:
I am aware, and that helped to form his legacy, but it's also not relatable to what we face today and I personally don't know how many how had to face.

I'm not trying to say they didn't have their own challenges, but I'm saying they all had their own challenges. I've also acknowledged the others to be better, but for what I want, Smith is the best option, at least for now.
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You're really betting on Jaiswal.....
 
Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
How would you guys rank the countries by ATG XI?

Australia, West Indies, South Africa, England, Pakistan, India, New Zealand, Sri Lanka sound good?

South Africa and England would be close I think.
 
Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
capt_Luffy said:
Australia, West Indies, England, South Africa, India, Pakistan, New Zealand, Sri Lanka.
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See I personally don’t think India’s bowling can compete with Pakistan’s. Not sure their batting makes up for it.

kyear2 said:
Australia, West Indies, South Africa, England, Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka, New Zealand
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See I personally don’t think SL’s bowling can compete with NZ’s. Not sure their batting makes up for it.
 
CricAddict

CricAddict

Cricketer Of The Year
Australia>West Indies>England=South Africa>India=Pakistan>New Zealand>Srilanka>Zimbabwe>Bangladesh>Afghanistan>Ireland
 
trundler

trundler

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NZ's actual bowling attack is Hadlee, Boult, Wagner and Vettori which is pretty awful by ATG standards. Of course, instead of confronting this reality, most NZers would rather fully invest in the Bond myth which would mean NZ play with 10 players 90% of the time.
 
Sunil1z

Sunil1z

International Regular
trundler said:
NZ's actual bowling attack is Hadlee, Boult, Wagner and Vettori which is pretty awful by ATG standards. Of course, instead of confronting this reality, most NZers would rather fully invest in the Bond myth which would mean NZ play with 10 players 90% of the time.
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Better bowling attack according to you ?

Hadlee + Boult+ Wagner+ Vettori
Vs
Murali + Herath + Vaas + Malinga
 
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