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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
bagapath said:
Blocked certain posters for my peace of mind; so my apologies if i am repeating ideas that are already in the msgs hidden from my sight.

An ATG English Squad of 16

Openers: 3
Sir Jack Hobbs
Sir Len Hutton
Herbert Sutcliffe

Middle Order: 4
Walter Hammond
Denis Compton
Joe Root
Ken Barrington

All rounders: 3
Sir Ian Botham
Ben Stokes
Wilfred Rhodes

Wicket Keeper/ Batsman: 2
Alan Knott
Alec Stewart

Bowlers: 4
Sid Barnes
Fred Trueman
Jim Laker
Jimmy Anderson

A possible First XI could be

Sir Jack Hobbs
Sir Len Hutton *
Joe Root
Walter Hammond (6)
Denis Compton
Ben Stokes (5)
Sir Ian Botham (3)
Alan Knott +
Fred Trueman (1)
Jim Laker (4)
Sid Barnes (2)
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HTB Compton is an overrated hack.
 
CricketFan90s

CricketFan90s

State Vice-Captain
bagapath said:
Blocked certain posters for my peace of mind; so my apologies if i am repeating ideas that are already in the msgs hidden from my sight.

An ATG English Squad of 16

Openers: 3
Sir Jack Hobbs
Sir Len Hutton
Herbert Sutcliffe

Middle Order: 4
Walter Hammond
Denis Compton
Joe Root
Ken Barrington

All rounders: 3
Sir Ian Botham
Ben Stokes
Wilfred Rhodes

Wicket Keeper/ Batsman: 2
Alan Knott
Alec Stewart

Bowlers: 4
Sid Barnes
Fred Trueman
Jim Laker
Jimmy Anderson

A possible First XI could be

Sir Jack Hobbs
Sir Len Hutton *
Joe Root
Walter Hammond (6)
Denis Compton
Ben Stokes (5)
Sir Ian Botham (3)
Alan Knott +
Fred Trueman (1)
Jim Laker (4)
Sid Barnes (2)
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Pietersen better than Compton. Hammond No3.
 
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Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
bagapath said:
Blocked certain posters for my peace of mind; so my apologies if i am repeating ideas that are already in the msgs hidden from my sight.

An ATG English Squad of 16

Openers: 3
Sir Jack Hobbs
Sir Len Hutton
Herbert Sutcliffe

Middle Order: 4
Walter Hammond
Denis Compton
Joe Root
Ken Barrington

All rounders: 3
Sir Ian Botham
Ben Stokes
Wilfred Rhodes

Wicket Keeper/ Batsman: 2
Alan Knott
Alec Stewart

Bowlers: 4
Sid Barnes
Fred Trueman
Jim Laker
Jimmy Anderson

A possible First XI could be

Sir Jack Hobbs
Sir Len Hutton *
Joe Root
Walter Hammond (6)
Denis Compton
Ben Stokes (5)
Sir Ian Botham (3)
Alan Knott +
Fred Trueman (1)
Jim Laker (4)
Sid Barnes (2)
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Why Alec Stewart ahead of Les Ames if you want batting? I'd put plenty of English keepers ahead of Stewart too.
 
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Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
With Hammond and Root as 5th and 6th bowlers, England don't necessarily need an allrounder. If an allrounder is picked and the tail looks weak, Ames at 6 and the allrounder at 7 is a decent option.
 
Slifer

Slifer

International Captain
CricketFan90s said:
I forgot about Trueman but your choice has weak batting lineup. It looks like you always have something negative to say about my selection and your friends come immediately to support your view. The All Time XI you choose has only 5 proper batsmen and if they play against a strong bowling side they will crumble. I went for Pietersen as he is more of an attacking batsmen compared to Barrington a stonewaller and Flintoff as no8 batsmen can be useful as England don't have a Wicket keeper batsmen like Gilchrist.
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Cough cough Les Ames. And choosing Flintoff as a frontline bowler weakens the attack considering that he was so so overall. And the other bowlers were iffy outside England. And your batting isn't any stronger than the team I posted.

Hobbs
Hutton
Hammond
Barrington
Root
Botham
Knott+
Trueman
Underwood/Verity
Anderson
Barnes

Isn't particularly weaker batting wise than what you proposed.
 
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CricketFan90s

CricketFan90s

State Vice-Captain
Slifer said:
Cough cough Les Ames. And choosing Flintoff as a frontline bowler weakens the attack considering that he was so so overall. And the other bowlers were iffy outside England. And your batting isn't any stronger than the team I posted.

Hobbs
Hutton
Hammond
Barrington
Root
Botham
Knott+
Trueman
Underwood/Verity
Anderson
Barnes

Isn't particularly weaker batting wise than what you proposed.
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Flintoff is not a frontline bowler, he is the fifth bowler.
 
Slifer

Slifer

International Captain
CricketFan90s said:
Flintoff is not a frontline bowler, he is the fifth bowler.
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England XI
1) Jack Hobbs
2) Len Hutton*
3) Wally Hammond
4) Kevin Pietersen
5) Joe Root
6) Ian Botham
7) Alan Knott+
8) Andrew Flintoff (He was a better bowler than Ben Stokes so went for him)
9) Derek Underwood
10) Fred Trueman
11) James Anderson

That's the team you picked. So who are the frontline bowlers then???
 
CricketFan90s

CricketFan90s

State Vice-Captain
Slifer said:
England XI
1) Jack Hobbs
2) Len Hutton*
3) Wally Hammond
4) Kevin Pietersen
5) Joe Root
6) Ian Botham
7) Alan Knott+
8) Andrew Flintoff (He was a better bowler than Ben Stokes so went for him)
9) Derek Underwood
10) Fred Trueman
11) James Anderson

That's the team you picked. So who are the frontline bowlers then???
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Anderson and Trueman will open the bowling, followed by Botham and Underwood. Flintoff and Hammond will assist other bowlers to complete the Overs. Sometimes if opponent team is doing very well then the English Captain should not feel that he is running out of options. If you have a batting order upto No8 it’s a psychological booster and Batsmen can play with less pressure. Flintoff has the most comfortable place in the Team as he plays at No8 and comes as No5 Bowler.
 
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Raz0r6ack

U19 12th Man
Western Nations (Eng, Aus, NZ)

J. Hobbs
H. Sutcliffe
D. Bradman (c)
S. Smith
W. Hammond
K. Miller
A. Gilchrist (wk)
R. Hadlee
S. Warne
P. Cummins
G. McGrath

Subcontient Nations (Ind, Pak, SL, Ban)

S. Gavaskar
R. Dravid
Y. Khan
S. Tendulkar
J. Miandad
K. Sangakkara (wk)
I. Khan (c)
K. Dev
W. Akram
W. Younis
M. Muralidaran

African Nations (SA, Zim)

B. Richards
G. Smith (c)
J. Kallis
G. Pollock
A. Flower
A. de Villiers (wk)
M. Procter
S. Pollock
H. Tayfield
D. Steyn
A. Donald

West Indies

D. Haynes
G. Greenidge
G. Headley
V. Richards (c)
B. Lara
G. Sobers
J. Dujon (wk)
M. Marshall
M. Holding
C. Ambrose
J. Garner
 
CricketFan90s

CricketFan90s

State Vice-Captain
Triangular Test Series Who Will Win ?

Euro-Oceania XI
1) Jack Hobbs
2) Len Hutton
3) Don Bradman
4) Steve Smith
5) Steve Waugh*
6) Keith Miller
7) Adam Gilchrist+
8) Richard Hadlee
9) Alan Davidson
10) Shane Warne
11) Glenn McGrath

Asia XI
1) Saeed Anwar
2) Sunil Gavaskar
3) Rahul Dravid
4) Sachin Tendulkar
5) Javed Miandad
6) Kumar Sangakkara+
7) Shakib Al Hasan
8) Imran Khan*
9) Wasim Akram
10) Waqar Younis
11) Muralitharan

Africa-America XI
1) Graeme Smith*
2) Gordon Greenidge
3) Viv Richards
4) Jacques Kallis
5) Brian Lara
6) Andy Flower+
7) Gary Sobers
8) Malcolm Marshall
9) Hugh Tayfield
10) Dale Steyn
11) Curtly Ambrose
 
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