The 4th Greatest Wicket keeper Batsman?

[sayon basak]

29.4 is close enough to 30 imo.

No.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Matt Prior being totally overlooked.

 

[sayon basak]

MS Dhoni being totally overlooked.

Exactly. So underrated

 

[Gob]

Matt Prior being totally overlooked.

His face was actually pretty difficult to look at

 

[CodeOfWisden]

The likes of Matt Prior , Dhoni are in another galaxy when compared to Knott, same applies for Liton Das, De Kock.

Lol at calling Knott

No.

Also knott has a much much superior away record in more than double number of matches.

The likes of Matt Prior , Dhoni are in another galaxy when compared to Knott, same applies for Liton Das, De Kock.

Lol at calling Knott an ATG , if he is an ATG then so are 15 more wicketkeepers.

Farokh Engineer also is in a different league, averaged same as Knott and that too while opening the innings.

Chalo Atleast you didn’t call Wasim Bari, Syed Kirmani an ATG.

 

[Johan]

BTW Rizwan is also miles ahead of Alan Knott.

Knott averaged like 45 away from home and had really tough home conditions, also miles ahead as a keeper

 

[sayon basak]

Lol at calling Knott an ATG , if he is an ATG then so are 15 more wicketkeepers.
Farokh Engineer also is in a different league, averaged same as Knott and that too while opening the innings.
Chalo Atleast you didn’t call Wasim Bari, Syed Kirmani an ATG.

And guess how many times I've used the word "ATG" in my post?

 

[CodeOfWisden]

Knott averaged like 45 away from home and had really tough home conditions, also miles ahead as a keeper

Then he was shitty at home which is like 50% of the games to end up averaging 30 odd overall.

How is he miles ahead as a keeper, and what does that mean, Rizwan is as safe a keeper as it gets, anything above that is just bonus and not a deciding factor.

 

[sayon basak]

Then he was shitty at home which is like 50% of the games to end up averaging 30 odd overall.

How is he miles ahead as a keeper, and what does that mean, Rizwan is as safe a keeper as it gets, anything above that is just bonus and not a deciding factor.

Rizwan=Gilchrist then?

 

[CodeOfWisden]

Rizwan=Gilchrist then?

Rizwan is not good enough to tie shoelaces of Gilchrist as a batsman.

 

[CodeOfWisden]

But yeah if you are saying whether I will swap Gilchrists keeping with Rizwan then yes, there’s hardly much difference there. Not significant enough to help us win more games.

 

[sayon basak]

Rizwan is not good enough to tie shoelaces of Gilchrist as a batsman.

So you say he is good enough if considered as pure WK's?

 

[sayon basak]

But yeah if you are saying whether I will swap Gilchrists keeping with Rizwan then yes, there’s hardly much difference there. Not significant enough to help us win more games.

Okay, that's good enough for me ig.

 

[CodeOfWisden]

Okay, that's good enough for me ig.

Do you think there is a significant difference there?

 

[sayon basak]

Do you think there is a significant difference there?

Yeah.

 

[Johan]

Then he was shitty at home which is like 50% of the games to end up averaging 30 odd overall.

How is he miles ahead as a keeper, and what does that mean, Rizwan is as safe a keeper as it gets, anything above that is just bonus and not a deciding factor.

oh his home conditions were just awful, consistent with all English players of 60s and 70s who were far better away than at home, while Rizwans bats on proper flat tracks.

More atheletic, better at reading swing, better at reading spin on uncovered wickets, so forth, Knott is one of the grestest keepers ever, Rizwan is just a good one.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Serious question, but is Pant better than Rizwan?? He is very poor against the moving ball.

The context of many of Pant's runs puts him a clear level above at this stage. Rizwan's good but Pant's played some top tier innings in Australia/England/SA in clutch situations too. The one in SA was a genuine ATG level knock, still pissed the rest of the muppets in the team wasted it.

In this mini slice of his career he's been the best keeper-batsman on batting quality since Gilchrist. Remains to be seen if he can maintain it though.

 

[kyear2]

As only a pure wicket keeper better, is Sanga 2nd? Because his batting went down massively while keeping + he only kept in a minority part of his career. As good a batsman as he was, it doesn't feel right keeping him in second

Fully agree with this. Knott is clearly 2nd best for me.

At the end of the day, it's wicketkeeper then batsman.

 

[sayon basak]

Fully agree with this. Knott is clearly 2nd best for me.

At the end of the day, it's wicketkeeper then batsman.

Assuming that you're reading through the whole thread, would like to see your reaction after you're finished.

 

[CodeOfWisden]

Fully agree with this. Knott is clearly 2nd best for me.

At the end of the day, it's wicketkeeper then batsman.

No it is not, if it was teams would be going with player with better keeping skills instead of batting.

Foakes dropped, Saha dropped, teams know that wicket keeping is no more a specialist thing and thats what matters.

Specialist wicketkeepers are done for, finished , kicked into oblivion.