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The 2006 NBA Playoffs thread

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
Fusion said:
Contain Dirk and Terry, and the Mavs still have Stackhouse, Howard, Harris and the rest.
Mavs are a younger team, have Dirk at his best and hence may have an edge but it is incorrect to say that Heat dont have depth. Walker is as good as Stackhouse, if not better and Jason Williams is definately better than Devon Harris, James Posey isn't a force at offense and cant be compared to Howard, but on the other side of the court, defending the basket, he is way better than Howard.
 

Fusion

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Sanz said:
Mavs are a younger team, have Dirk at his best and hence may have an edge but it is incorrect to say that Heat dont have depth. Walker is as good as Stackhouse, if not better and Jason Williams is definately better than Devon Harris, James Posey isn't a force at offense and cant be compared to Howard, but on the other side of the court, defending the basket, he is way better than Howard.
Sanz you're so wrong about the Walker/Stackhouse comparison. Walker is such a streaky player. He needs bulk shots to get in rhythm, and most of the time he doesn't. Plus, he plays no defense. Stackhouse is far more consistent than him, on both ends of the floor. In fact, if it wasn't for him being injured in the early part of the season, Stack would've probably won the Sixth man of the year award. You're right that Posey is a better defender, but since Howard is a lot better at offense AND is above average on defense, there is no comparison there. I'm not knocking your team's players mind you, just saying that depth wise the Mavs have a definate advantage.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
As streaky as Walker is, He has a better FG %, 3 PT %. Not to forget that this season he is playing better than ever as opposed to Jerry. Jerry does play defense better but he is a choker, who struggles when under pressure. Walker has been different in Miami and one of the reasons why they are in NBA Finals.
 

Sanz

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Oh and I wasn't really comparing Howard and Posey, I just brought Posey to point out that Miami do have depth. Posey doesn't score much because it is not demanded of him much. Miami also has Haslem, who can be a good scorer if need be.
 

Fusion

Global Moderator
Sanz said:
Oh and I wasn't really comparing Howard and Posey, I just brought Posey to point out that Miami do have depth. Posey doesn't score much because it is not demanded of him much. Miami also has Haslem, who can be a good scorer if need be.

Haslem and Posey both did a great job on Dirk last night. They both played physical, which is the best way to try to slow him down. Though I expect Dirk to adjust and torch them as the games go on! :cool: I guess we'll have to disagree on the Walker issue. I don't think he contributes much. Like I said, he's streaky and can turn cold when the shots don't go in. On top of that, he's sloppy (he had 6 turnovers yesterday). Whenever I watch him, it reminds me of those old Mavericks teams (that had Walker in them for one year!) that were happy taking the 3 point shot and not penetrating the lane and played no defense. But I guess with Shaq and Wade, Walker doesn't have to do that. I still say you're overrating him though.
 

Fusion

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So I have a question. Is Dirk bigger in Germany than any of the national team's football players? Or does he have to go a LONG way before that happens (if ever)??
 

Fusion

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Sanz said:
ROUT. 4-0 Dallas, Anyone ?
Hey don't you dare try to jinx my team!! :cool: But obviously, I'm liking our chances here. At the beginning of the series, if someone told me that Shaq wouldn't even play in the 4th quarter, I would've thought it's because the Mavs were being blown out by 30 points. Instead, it's because the Mavs were blowing out the Heat! I think Dallas' defense has been the key so far. They haven't allowed Wade to take over, and Shaq has been double and triple teamed. On the rare occasions he actually gets the ball, Dallas fouls him and he can't make the free throws. Well...on to game 3 in Miami!!
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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Fusion said:
So I have a question. Is Dirk bigger in Germany than any of the national team's football players? Or does he have to go a LONG way before that happens (if ever)??
There is no way that a basketball player is more popular than the Lehmanns, Ballacks and Podolskis of German football.

And for good reason too.
Nowitzki is, however, bigger in the U.S. than any German footballer.
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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Fusion said:
At the beginning of the series, if someone told me that Shaq wouldn't even play in the 4th quarter, I would've thought it's because the Mavs were being blown out by 30 points.
But Shaq has been poor for a long time now...

I don't see why it's such a big surprise that he's struggling now.
 

Fusion

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Mr Mxyzptlk said:
But Shaq has been poor for a long time now...

I don't see why it's such a big surprise that he's struggling now.
Because he's Shaq. He's still the most dominant player in the game. Even during this year's playoff run, he has had outstanding games against Chicago and Detroit. Yeah he's not the Shaq of 4 years ago, but he's still a human mountain that has to be dealt with. So for him to have the worst playoff game of his career yesterday still surprises me.
 

Fusion

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Mr Mxyzptlk said:
There is no way that a basketball player is more popular than the Lehmanns, Ballacks and Podolskis of German football.

And for good reason too.
Nowitzki is, however, bigger in the U.S. than any German footballer.

Well that makes sense. I was just curious as to how big he's gotten in Germany. I would assume that right now with the World Cup going on, not a lot of people in Germany are paying attention to the NBA playoffs.
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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Fusion said:
Because he's Shaq. He's still the most dominant player in the game.
In what way?! Shaq has been anything but dominant in recent times. He may be one of the strongest players in the game, but if his impact on the game is so consistently minimal, surely he can't be called dominant.
 

Dravid

International Captain
I say its gonna be 4-1...Miami will lose the second game at home...They will go back to Dallas, and Dallas will finish it off...but no matter what Dallas are winning this year
 

Fusion

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Mr Mxyzptlk said:
In what way?! Shaq has been anything but dominant in recent times. He may be one of the strongest players in the game, but if his impact on the game is so consistently minimal, surely he can't be called dominant.
Again, he's not as dominant as years past, but he still can be dominant. Evidence his 30 point, 20 rebound game against Chicago in Game 6. And against Detroit in game 6 he had 28 points and 16 rebounds. Both these games' stats don't really show how dominant he was in them. I realize he's not the player he once was, but I will still insist it's a surprise to see Shaq have 5 points in the game and not even play in the 4th qtr.
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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Fusion said:
Again, he's not as dominant as years past, but he still can be dominant. Evidence his 30 point, 20 rebound game against Chicago in Game 6. And against Detroit in game 6 he had 28 points and 16 rebounds. Both these games' stats don't really show how dominant he was in them. I realize he's not the player he once was, but I will still insist it's a surprise to see Shaq have 5 points in the game and not even play in the 4th qtr.
The thing is, if he's only going to be dominant once or twice in a 7-game series, I don't see how he can be called the dominant player in the sport right now. He may be potentially dominant on a given night, but the lack of consistency is telling.
 

Fusion

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Heat take game 3. Mavs kinda chocked there :@ Dirk misses a key free throw at the end. Overall we just played sloppy to lose a 12 point lead. And Wade.....I just gotta bow down to his greatness. Well, it's a series again!! I still have confidence though. Mavs in 6!
 

Anil

Hall of Fame Member
Fusion said:
Heat take game 3. Mavs kinda chocked there :@ Dirk misses a key free throw at the end. Overall we just played sloppy to lose a 12 point lead. And Wade.....I just gotta bow down to his greatness. Well, it's a series again!! I still have confidence though. Mavs in 6!
yeah it's still advantage mavs....wade alone cannot keep the heat afloat for long....although the guy is well on his way to becoming a legend....
 

Anil

Hall of Fame Member
a blowout for the heat in game 4 and it's all square....but the mavs just need one win in miami and they can go home and finish it off there....can wade and shaq hold them off for a three in a row at home??? fusion, what do you think?:)
 

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