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Stuart Broad farewell thread

Ali TT

International Vice-Captain
Anderson sorta made it as a white ball bowler as well initially, if I am not wrong between 2003-05 and were probably his peak years there too. Maybe there is a story here that seamers mature into great test bowlers post a white ball peak?
Wouldn't read too much into anything involving England white ball cricket in the 00s. We generally treated it with disdain. Test prospects were "blooded" in ODIs first, no matter how suitable they were to that format. I suspect Broad and Aberrations white ball skills fell off as they concentrated more on those needed in test cricket.

In more recent years, someone like Chris Woakes has improved significantly as a white ball cricketer later in his career. I recall for Warwickshire his list A record was pretty modest but he became in time a mainstay of England's white ball attack.
 

Flem274*

123/5
Broad and Anderson were incredibly hard done by after the 2015 World Cup. They did not bowl well, but until then had pretty reasonable records and the batsmen (who had been sinking the ship for some time) managed 231, 123, 309 and 260 against major sides.

Remembering the games and checking the cards to confirm, England left a lot of runs out there even in the game they scored 300. It's not like the bowlers who replaced them were better either. I don't think Plunkett and Wood were better, even if they randomly showed up to assist England and Dharmasena to a tied match once. I'd take Anderson, Broad and Archer as an ODI attack every day, with Woakes obv the guy who can claim to be better than both.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Both probably retired in Tests in 2019 if they carried on playing ODIs so it’s moot for me
 

Niall

International Coach
Rumour is he's going to do this year's Strictly.
Huh.

I called Anderson been in it as expected him to retire after the ashes and he would have done well with the housewives but Broad makes sense as the show is still very popular and he should do pretty well.

He is the fav for SPOTY ahead of Frankie who has also retired this year, he should go close although obviously if the girls win the world cup one of them wins which is fair enough.
 

Daemon

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Broad nipping it back into the right hander on one of his days when the knees were pumping is probably the first thing that comes to mind when I think of his bowling. Feel like I saw less of it in the later part of his career but maybe it's because batsmen were so worried about it they'd edge the straight ones.
 

Howe_zat

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That Trent Bridge test where he took the hat trick is just mental. People remember the hatty but he'd also top scored in the first innings from 120/8, then India had gone 40 ahead for 4 down before he got Yuvraj Singh out to break a key partnership, then he took the hat trick. England would have been stuffed in that game without him and they ended up winning by 300 runs.
 

Daemon

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That Trent Bridge test where he took the hat trick is just mental. People remember the hatty but he'd also top scored in the first innings from 120/8, then India had gone 40 ahead for 4 down before he got Yuvraj Singh out to break a key partnership, then he took the hat trick. England would have been stuffed in that game without him and they ended up winning by 300 runs.
Oh man the lower order ****blocks still hurt. Curran’s ones years later were just horrid too.
 

Son Of Coco

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Ahhh, he's a funny bugger when he isn't annoying the **** out of you playing against your team.

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wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
The first thing that needs saying is that Broad has produced more 'I remember where I was when they happened' moments than any other cricketer. As I don't have Sky Sports, that doesn't mean watching the telly in my front room. More often than not, they took place on holiday or in transit. Or else listening to TMS in various parts of my home. But either way, I can picture where I was during his series winning spells in 2009, 2013 and 2015. Also his first dismissal of Warner in 2019, although obviously not all of them. Ditto that 5 for 1 spell in SA (bringing wp junior back from winter nets in Wallington, since you ask) and more recently when he made good of his pre-series boast about his new delivery 'for Marnus', which has to be one of the ATG before-the-event trolls.

Linked to which, he holds the record for seriously impacting five home ashes series. By comparision, Botham managed three. Willis and Flintoff two each. I think Trueman only took part in four, and I don't know how much he influenced all of those anyway. So Broad's out on his own as a bowler afaics, and probaby by some distance. And, of course, he performed pretty respectably in Australia even when the team was being trounced.

I enjoyed this piece in the Gauniad by Barney Ronay, which came out 24 hours before Broad announced his retirement.
It may not be to everyone's taste, but whatever. I liked Barneys description of Broad's 'classic destroyer-of-worlds spells of his prime, where the air seems to shift, the birds fly backwards through the sky and the clock strikes Broad o’clock'. But maybe that's just me. There's lots of other good bits if you like that sort of thing.
 

Andy19

U19 12th Man
Broad is all-time great and one of best bowlers of his generation.

However Anderson is better and more Skillful bowler in my opinion.

Anderson always been England best bowler.
 
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