Stokes injured in the Hundred. Who steps up to be England captain ?

[TheJediBrah]

SCurran recall was actually my reflex reaction, posted in the Sri Lanka tour thread. Does he even play red ball cricket these days though? (Genuine question!) But I can't think of another allrounder they might turn to if they want to get close to a like-for-like replacement for Stokes.

Hasn't stopped England from picking a player for Tests lately

 

[Blenkinsop]

If they want another allrounder then Dawson would be a much better choice than Curran IMO, not that he will ever get a chance now. Or they could go leftfield and take a chance on a young player like George Hill, Lyndon James or Joey Evison. That would be a very Bazball option.

 

[Kenneth Viljoen]

Surely England should pick Ed Barnard ..

He's put up decent stats in domestic cricket

 

[CartyDurham]

Confirmed now that Stokes is out for the rest of the U.K. summer. He’s hoping to be fit for the Pakistan tour

 

[LangleyburyCCPlayer]

Pope confirmed as captain as expected

 

[ImpatientLime]

If they want another allrounder then Dawson would be a much better choice than Curran IMO, not that he will ever get a chance now. Or they could go leftfield and take a chance on a young player like George Hill, Lyndon James or Joey Evison. That would be a very Bazball option.

pretty sure dawson told the selectors to suck it

 

[wpdavid]

pretty sure dawson told the selectors to suck it

And picking a second spinner for a home series against SL would be very odd anyway.

 

[CartyDurham]

Re two spinners playing in England home tests

has there been any since Emburey and Edmonds?

I’m not including part time spinners like root but bona fide selected as spinners

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

Re two spinners playing in England home tests

has there been any since Emburey and Edmonds?

I’m not including part time spinners like root but bona fide selected as spinners

The Ashes, Oval 2013. Infamous Kerrigan experiment.

Coincidentally one of the most important cricket matches this century.

 

[CartyDurham]

The Ashes, Oval 2013. Infamous Kerrigan experiment.

Coincidentally one of the most important cricket matches this century.

Was Swann the other ?

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

Was Swann the other ?

Yep.

 

[CartyDurham]

I remember Swann and Monty helping England to win in India

since the 80s and Emburey and Edmonds, England playing two spinners is so rare at home

 

[kevinw]

The Ashes, Oval 2013. Infamous Kerrigan experiment.

Coincidentally one of the most important cricket matches this century.

Chris Woakes's Test debut? iirc, England were going to win but either the Aussies wasted time or the umps just called it with about 20 needed.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

Chris Woakes's Test debut? iirc, England were going to win but either the Aussies wasted time or the umps just called it with about 20 needed.

Yeah Woakes had the chase in the bag before umpires called it off for bad light.

 

[wpdavid]

Re two spinners playing in England home tests

has there been any since Emburey and Edmonds?

I’m not including part time spinners like root but bona fide selected as spinners

Here's an example from 1998, with Croft and Giles both playing.

ENG vs SA Cricket Scorecard, 3rd Test at Manchester, July 02 - 06, 1998

Get cricket scorecard of 3rd Test, ENG vs SA, South Africa tour of England 1998 at Old Trafford, Manchester dated July 02 - 06, 1998.

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Not especially successful.

More recently, Swann and Panesar both played at Cardiff in 2009.

ENG vs AUS Cricket Scorecard, 1st Test at Cardiff, July 08 - 12, 2009

Get cricket scorecard of 1st Test, ENG vs AUS, Australia tour of England and Scotland 2009 at Sophia Gardens, Cardiff dated July 08 - 12, 2009.

www.espncricinfo.com

Also not hugely successful.


This was more like it; Moeen and Dawson against SA at Lord's in 2017

ENG vs SA Cricket Scorecard, 1st Test at London, July 06 - 09, 2017

Get cricket scorecard of 1st Test, ENG vs SA, SA tour of England 2017 at Lord's, London dated July 06 - 09, 2017.

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And again in the same series.

ENG vs SA Cricket Scorecard, 2nd Test at Nottingham, July 14 - 17, 2017

Get cricket scorecard of 2nd Test, ENG vs SA, SA tour of England 2017 at Trent Bridge, Nottingham dated July 14 - 17, 2017.

www.espncricinfo.com

Moeen and Rashid for two of the tests against India in 2018
At Southampton

ENG vs IND Cricket Scorecard, 4th Test at Southampton, August 30 - September 02, 2018

Get cricket scorecard of 4th Test, ENG vs IND, India tour of England 2018 at The Rose Bowl, Southampton dated August 30 - September 02, 2018.

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And at The Oval

ENG vs IND Cricket Scorecard, 5th Test at London, September 07 - 11, 2018

Get cricket scorecard of 5th Test, ENG vs IND, India tour of England 2018 at Kennington Oval, London dated September 07 - 11, 2018.

www.espncricinfo.com

 

[GIMH]

I don’t know what you’re all talking about, I’ve watched a stack of Tests where the likes of Ali, Leach, Bashir etc have played as second spinner behind Root

 

[wpdavid]

I don’t know what you’re all talking about, I’ve watched a stack of Tests where the likes of Ali, Leach, Bashir etc have played as second spinner behind Root

Ignoring the obvious point that @CartyDurham had told you in no uncertain terms that Root doesn't count, I hadn't got as far as checking Leach's tests. It's possible that he played as well as another spinner at some point. Maybe with Dom Bess? But I'm done for the day, so someone else can check that out if they haven't anything better to do.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

Liam Dawson got a home summer alongside Mo at one point I think, vs South Africa I want to say.

Edit: yep looking it up, was 2017. Mo and Rashid also played together, the following home summer vs India.

 

[Howe_zat]

Moeen Ali and Joe Denly in 2019

 

[LangleyburyCCPlayer]

Liam Dawson got a home summer alongside Mo at one point I think, vs South Africa I want to say.

Yep, played the first 2 Tests against SA in 2017, when England fielded 3 all-rounders, before he got dropped for Roland-Jones